Its basicaly like a manifold but your not cutting any branches off your 2 horizontals but are u topping the end of your horizontals when u have 3 on each side or are u topping the 12 branches coming out of the horizontals mate i know u cutting what grows underneath horizontal i got some clones that are at the right stage now for this femenised i growing them under metal halides the nodes are tight together will thhis matter or is it a case of just spreading as much as i can mate
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It seems that several have some questions regarding the actual topping of branches; I am hoping that if a picture paints a thousand words that a diagram is worth at least 500.
Here is an image viewed from above, showing your core plant structure and flowering growth tips (i.e. what will become flowering tip/branches)
Though I'm jumping slightly ahead - please look at the diagram; IF your plant has a basic structure like the one above, you will already have 44 or 46 flowering branches on your plant (including the 4 or 6 upward growing of your 'new' horizontal branches on either side of the Y). The amount grows exponentially as your plant grows new nodes. You can absolutely 'top' each branch growing horizontally off of your main Y, not just the end of each side Y. What you want to consider if you are going to 'top' each horizontal branch growing off of your main Y is that you are spreading the growing area of each branch to twice its size but adding only one more flowering branch as well as slowing plant growth. If you just allow your plant to grow naturally without 'topping' the tips of the horizontal branch; your plant will add 3 new flowering tips in the same amount of space. It is the 'topping' that slows a plants growth which is why a traditional manifold structure adds time to your grow. Using the manifold method is basically - 1 topping = 2 tips (allow to grow out), top again, 2nd topping = 4 tips (allow to grow out), top a 3rd time, 3rd topping = 8 tips. With straight forward Manifolding getting up to 16 growth tips can add an additional 3 weeks to your veg time. With this method (hmmm, maybe it needs a name other than modified manifold) you should already have over 40 'flowering tips' by week 6 - with more coming all on their own as the branches grow outward and upward until the end of vegetation week 8.
Keep in mind that at the same time you are keeping an eye on plants basic structure, you are also doing regular 'indoor' plant maintenance such as defoliating to keep 'flowering tips' exposed, LST to keep your canopy level, and dealing with any health or pest issues.
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Ok mate i know what u mean now u just top centre branch to make v then top the ends of the v just another question on pic it shows takeing of fan leaves when u do that also i going to be doing it on clones mate so can u keep me in mind mate if i put pics up will u help me through it cheers
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I see you still suck at tiny plants. Just the time you could save on trimming if you could just grow smaller plants. It's not that hard
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poor little solo cup plants. Even my cloned autos outdid them.
Just for fun decided to see what I can grow if anything from 23 day old cuttings of the Creme de la Chem Auto. Snipped them from the second node growth when I was trimming up the mother plant. I know they will be the same age basically as the mother which has not shown signs of sex yet. Trimmed the cuttings and put them in some
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T.HallLast edited by BU2B; 11-02-2020, 10:28 PM.
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How to use this method with clones:
This will be the only section addressing how to apply this method to clones. As has been mentioned - they're slightly different in that nodes are offset, not even as in a plant started from seed.
To use this method on a clone, you will want to start with any healthy branch and the main branch. You want to pick a section that has a good side branch that has relatively the same number of nodes as your main branch. If you don't have any branching (note - we are looking for actual branches here not just leaves) then start near the top of your clone. Your main branch is going to be 1 branch and the node you have chosen near the top of your clone is going to be the second branch. Gently fold the plant over and restrain the main branch right at the node. You DO NOT have to 'top' your clone, you are making use of what is there naturally. Though new nodes on your clone will be offset, the same principle applies. Remove under-facing growth and follow the general guidelines of this grow method. As shown earlier, I don't think there's much doubt that the plant its self doesn't give a care if the nodes are not even. Below are images of the same plant shown in post #30 to give you just one idea on how to apply this method to your clone. I can't make your clones have even nodes - but as see you can see, in the end it's really not 'much' of a problem.
Hats off to you cloners - I've never been too good at making clones (I know, I know, like small plants - it's easy!) That's not to say I haven't been successful, just not consistent.
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Yes that is what my clones look like
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oldjarhead100 "SPOILER ALERT!" - THAT is the remainder of the tutorial! ROTFL! Thanks for letting the cat out of the bag. 🤣Last edited by BU2B; 11-03-2020, 01:56 PM.
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This is a clone i sorta manifolded i think? Some get really stiff and woody to bend.1 PhotoSmoke Ganja create Peace Respect Nature don't trash the Planet
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Remember the Windows tubes screensaver? Some of my early plant structures would put it to shame. In my book, any grow is a good grow.
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My 4 clones nearing completion look a lot like this. I like it.
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Manifolding can be done with clones. These 4 plants are clones from flowering plants. The first 3 made it back to veg, were manifolded, then sent back to flower.
The fourth refused to veg, so just for fun sent it back to flower. My entry for the smallest plant also.
Following this post closely. Thank you BU2B .Don't worry, be happy, grow sticky buds.
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some incredible plant structures ,as I was looking though I noticed that some people leave the pod/flower when they cut the node off ,I always make sure they go in the duff pile they are loaded with THCnew grow room built summer of 2017 ,argo max tent for veging ,big kahuna reflector, 1000hps with added leds for the full spectrum . 15th indoor grow ,5 years outside gorilla grows(stealth is the key),veg under t5s growing autos under 300w leds
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