You know what i hate?

[Bluey]

One should read the terms and conditions of a contract prior to signing it

[Gingerbeard]

Figure this one. There will be math.
Buying a modem will run $50, maybe. Do some shopping and $20 will do the trick.
Cox will happily let you use one of theirs for free! The caveat is you have to sign a new two-year contract and at the end of the two years you pay $15 a month (current rates.) I had to ask about that. All they tell you is what is free. Not how much you will wind up paying or that you will be re-contracted. Nothing, in the end, is free. They've done this every time I have talked to them. There is a chance I will not be here in two years and will not get hooked into another contract.
Time for math. For a year, that Cox cable modem will rent at $180. I've been a customer for nigh on 12 years, now. Had I originally opted to rent one of their units, I would have wound up paying $1800 before having to get a new one.
Cox cable is why people hate corporate America.

[Gingerbeard]

Frggrrefsshshzzzgaaaaarrrgaaaammmph on Cox cable. A pox on Cox! Suussssakkkggppoqqqquiiird their face!
Free! Well, free for two years. Then that thing you could have done for $40 at one shot will be rented to you for $180 per year. And we'll sign you up for another 2-year contract without telling you.

Out of the loop until I can figure something out...

[Bluey]

Yes it is!

[Going2fast]

Cancer. Fuck you for even existing you fucking plague on humanity. I'm tired of fighting you.

[dirtymike]

My old man used a wood stove until his wood cutters left home. There is a white 500 gal propane tank in the yard now. Me and my brother aint chopped wood since.

[changeofpace2014]

Looks like the container law only restricts filling to the owner of the tank - Looks like a loop hold to Have Multiple Containers from multiple providers..... Wonder How that conversation would go....

[Going2fast]

Same here. I have a wood stove but grew up feeding that beast and don't use it now except for backup.

[Rwise]

I also supplemented the propane with wood heat, (I would also gather coal from the railroad tracks, really kicked the heat up but one did not want to put to much coal in a wood stove) I was younger then and cut that myself, not going to happen these days. And our gov wants wood banned, along with propane and natural gas. But is that coal fired plant cleaner than my gas heat, I dont think so?! I just paid the highest natural gas heating bill I have ever had, almost half of the bill is a charge for reading the damn meter via radio, but at least I get to stay warm, have hot water to bath in even if the lights go out.

[Gingerbeard]

City people like me pay money to vacation in rurality such as yours. That is why I tease. Hiccups and inconveniences, sure. But you have trees out your windows without even trying! I have traffic and loud street people.
Spent a winter 2 weeks with a cousin who lived on 10 acres in New Mexico. The place was built buy a survivalist for Y2K. While I was there the water either froze or the well dried up. Not really sure. Wound up hand pumping from one of 5 5,000 water tanks buried on the property. Had to filter all of it and boil for drinking. All heat was provided by a single wood stove. Spent much of the days with a chainsaw and wood splitter because my cousin was unable to realize how much firewood she would need. Luckily, she lived in trees.
Working to keep up with life like that is dreamy, baby. Just dreamy. If I wasn't embarrassed about where I live, I would propose a house swap during the winter months.

[Going2fast]

These are rural America problems I know. No offense to my city living brethren.

[Going2fast]

Plenty of competition. Problem is they want to charge me to remove tanks that I have been renting for 30 years. Mind you they are not my company of choice. They bought out the company that bought out the company that I had. And it's totally true. There is nowhere in America that you can go into and Amerigas office and complain about your service. All call centers overseas. Totally gone this spring if I have to deliver their tanks to them myself which I totally can

[Bowhunterwoody]

Fuck that. They'd be gone. Even if it was their tank. Up here pretty much every oil company delivers propane too. Lots of competition.

[Gingerbeard]

(This won't make you feel better. Might even make you call me a bad name, again, because I suck for saying this because I am a complete asshole when I say this. I admit that. But I want to say it.)
I had to put socks on with my sandals and hoodie over my jacket this morning when I took Dabber out because it was all the way down to 49°. Made it down to 67° in my apartment overnight. Brr, man! I totally feel your lack of heat pain. Totally. That global warming shit is a real ball-buster.
That is a sort of reason I don't do auto re-whatevers. Does Amerigas have competition?

[Rwise]

Do you own the tank? If so can you get someone else to fill it? I still have a 500 gallon tank from when I last had propane for heat/cooking, here we have a number of providers to choose from.