Hash talk

[Gator]

Ohh, this is going to be fun, can't decide what one is going to be sacrificed

[Gator]

Ribbon candy

[Gator]

Don't talk about it, be about it lol the devil's tongue is starting to darken up

[Bluey]

Use a lab heat mat. You can get them that even swirls the solution. I have no idea what they are called but they are brilliant. Precise temp control, not ghetto cheap though.

https://us.ohaus.com/en-us/products/equipment/hotplates-stirrers

[Gingerbeard]

Got curious about this machine. I'll never own one but it got me thinking about oil distillation.
This machine gets up to 107°F which is fine for ethanol extraction but not enough for short path or fractional distillation which I believe is in the 400°+ range, gathered from a video, or two.
The idea of capturing the vapor from what is nothing more than an oversize lid is brilliant in its ghettoness. I mean, it doesn't even have a chiller! And you don't need to run a gallon at a time.
Who is the person with the big brain, shop, and capital to build me one of these machines with variable temperature up to, say, 500°?
Source Turbo Botanical Concentrate Extractor – ExtractCraft Store

[Gingerbeard]

Seems a few more folk are reading this. So, I'll bring it up again.
What are thoughts about making an alcohol tincture/extract with kief instead of whole plant? Basically, melting trichomes in alcohol instead of a whole plant wash.
And further thoughts about dewaxing if not just filtering the tincture and evaporating the alcohol? Basically, making (dewaxed) RSO with kief.

[Smallgrow]

Yes, that’s correct on both.
Apparently the freeze dryers are good for drying hash before pressing into temple balls, but I ain’t that fancy

[Gingerbeard]

Mostly.
The ubiquitous household refrigerator/freezer combo is not good for freezing weed or anything plant. Flash freezing does not burst plant cells and damage trichomes like your Frigidaire. That's how you get the live resins, rosins, and other 'live' concentrates.
There's also freeze drying. But that's just speeded up drying, no curing.

[Smallgrow]

On another reading of Frenchys instruction it would appear he does not recommend freezing fresh material as it will cause the water to expand, damaging the resin heads and adding chlorophyll to the process.
So fresh yes , fresh frozen not so much. Fully dried and cured 3 months is most common

[Smallgrow]

[Smallgrow]

Don’t know how I missed this chat so far but here’s my 2 cents.

ice water hash thats properly made is absolutely the best full spectrum product you can get. I think you should find some of my previous posts about my process if you look back.
or
You can look through he masters site where he has links to video and written instructions and explanations why. I recommend you read the “lost art of the Hashishin” series in the article section linked below.

It is defiantly some work but I think it’s worth it, and no nasty solvents.
Please don’t grind or shred the biomass before, this does break up the resin heads which means they won’t separate properly. Also true for dry sift.
Freezing is fine but don’t break it up. Fresh frozen is the best. The warm pressing and decarb is a key part of making it into what it can be.
Once it’s dried properly and pressed, wrap it in natural cellophane and stored in a good spot it will last for many years. As it ages good things happen as the compounds continue to change.
I’d like a fancy set of bags , but I’ve just used the full mesh(thats important) bubblebag dude 8 bag set. I also bought the washer and it does make it a bit easier but it’s totally fine to do it by hand the secret is to be gentle as you don’t want to break up the biomass just separate the resin heads.

I settled on using 160 then 45 as my main collection bag after trying many combinations. Less bags is easier but lots of people use something before the 160 and after 45 as you could get something decent from 160 and say a 25 but I never do so I’ve stopped, as it’s just slower and more cleaning.
Plenty think the 73 is the magic number and it’s good but I prefer the full spectrum (and more yield) of the 160-45.

[Gingerbeard]

One at a time is easier to work with.
Wash with ice and water in the 220 bag. Remove and squeeze the bag and set it aside for a second wash.
Pour the juice in the next smaller bag. Wash and scrape the smaller bag. Repeat pouring the juice in the next smaller bag. The bags are in the buckets, obviously.

[Gator]

I'm not an expert at all, I'm just trying to share my observations from what I know so far

[Bluey]

I can see freezing would make it more brittle I guess. The first bag should catch 99% of that but. It probably doesn't make a lot of difference because as soon as you add really cold water it's going to unfreeze anyway.

So ice only on the first mix then pour into second bucket with all the bags, or just one bag and lift then into another bucket with next smallest bag and so on.

Scrape off wet trichomes of the bag, let dry and sift through screen.

I guess that sums it up.

[Gingerbeard]

Umm... no. I think.
Ice goes with plant material, not sift. Every time you agitate the plant material, you need ice. You do not use ice when you are pouring off buckets into smaller screens.
Just keep the water nice and cold. Did you ever put water bottles in the freezer just until they started forming ice on the sides? That's nice and cold. Refreshing, too!
Interesting idea about refrigerated weed versus frozen weed.
What I said about not freezing weed because someone mentioned something and I saw a video. Those are the people who are famous for the purity of their hash and kief. The hash and kief you see pictures of. Figure freezing is popular enough that I might be the only person suggesting freezing is not the best way to go.