Hash talk

[Bluey]

I haven't heard of hash caps.

The only experience I have with processing this plant is drying and curing for smoking/vaping and the making of green butter.

I've smoked hash but never made any. Finger hash doesn't count.

I can get 3/5 or 8 bag sets, ice filter or standard (I need to check what the difference is, the standard are 5% more expensive) nylon full mesh bag sets in anything from 1 gal to 55 gal. 5 gal size is workable for me. They are the white bags with color coded stitching/draw strings at the top. Cost is US$52 delivered for a 5 bag 5 gal ice water set.

[Gingerbeard]

Never heard of hash caps? I'm not saying don't do RSO. I'm coming at it with the least amount of work.
In my nascent experience and research about making ice water hash, you don't really need but four bags unless you can tell the difference between, say, a 72 micron and 85 micron hash. Five bags, tops.

[Bluey]

An advantage of RSO is it can be placed in caps. Easily transportable, stored and consumed, all stealthily. I only have a gallon of 99.9% pure ISO stored @ minus 20⁰C. Not enough to do all the bud and trim I have and it's been recommended to soak for a few weeks which purifies it more I'm informed..

I would still like to try the ice water bag method, a set of 8 nylon bags is around US$70 to the door. I have the mechanical mixer and plenty of 5 gal buckets.

No rush. Still drying these remaining buds on the plant, increased the temps and dropped the RH to 20⁰C and 50% these past few days in the grow room making sure I totally dry these remaining buds before cardboard boxing the lot.

[Gingerbeard]

Rwise with all those quarts sitting around, you have amazing opportunity to experiment with infused food products and tinctures. Honey. Cooking oils. Topicals. Lotions. Letting a jar sit to soak up all the goodness for a year... maaaannn... I need to run to the dope store.

[Gingerbeard]

Got you on delivery method. Still, decarbed hash is just as edible as RSO without all the work.
From what I understand about RSO, it is about as full spectrum a cannabis medicine you can get using cured weed. It'll get you high, but it is actually medicinal. And my idea of marijuana as medicine is... unpopular up in these here places like this here place.

[Rwise]

I still have bud from 5 years ago, so I have plenty to run, last year 1 plant gave 38 quarts of bud which I have used 1 Quart of.
The knock off had so many reports of leaking, I wont be looking at them.
I have my reason for wanting it eatable coming from my Dr and a lung CT scan, shit!~

[Gingerbeard]

Bag size depends on how much product you have to work with. I only do a couple ounces at a go and use the one gallon bags with a rice paddle to agitate.
I don't trust knock offs. Pay more for the security of a quality product with history and a warranty.
If you have the little measuring spoons (I have the same set and use the drop for dabbing) for hash Rwise , why bother the process of making RSO? I am real close to melting hash with alcohol and dewaxing for dabbing. See how that goes against washing whole plant. Hash won't be the same product as whole plant but it seems much easier to do.

[Rwise]

I have tried it, dont like the mess, the alcohol is costly and dies fast (absorbs water), I have not tried to run it through my still to remove water (yet) also the batches are tiny. I need to do way more than a quart at a time. I would be making the hash to eat not mixed into sugars or fats. I am doing this now with kief, decarbed, from a trim bin and kept in 1 cup jars using measuring spoons "Smidgen Pinch and Dash". (mostly the Pinch)

[Bluey]

I've been making enquiries here with those that know and was told not to bother with that and just do RSO. It lasts and us a superior product, well thats what I've been told anyway.

[Rwise]

I have tried the alcohol extraction, now I want to try to do bubble hash. Looking at the original (5 gallon) system and wondering if anyone has the hole system, washer bags press screens and what they think of it. I have read about the knock off and how it leaks water, and some say the bags tear easily. Also for those that only got the bags and use a hand drill etc.. Whats your thoughts is it worth picking up the whole thing or just as good to only get the bags? What do you use to stir the water/ice/weed in them? Anything else I may have not thought of.

[Gingerbeard]

That's why it's $90 a gallon, I'm sure.

[Ckbrew]

In this application it does not matter what the sugar source was to make the ethanol. In liquor, the ethanol is usually 40-50%. The remaining is water and other miscellaneous substances that impart the flavor. Whiskey vs tequila. The non ethanol portion is the difference. In high quality vodka or grain alcohol it is distilled to 95%, diluted with pure water, then re-distilled. This "washes" out the flavor leaving only water. To make 100% ethanol you need to make an alternate azeotrope, I believe benzene would accomplish this, or treat it with a molecular sieve, a clay like substance that has a higher affinity for water than the ethanol.

[Bluey]

Hygroscopic?

[Gingerbeard]

Ckbrew per azeotrope in #52.3. By name, no. By concept, yes.
I read something about no such thing as 100% pure alcohol because at some point, drying agents are added to remove extra %% moisture. Those drying agents are the first to separate. How fast it happens, I guess you just told me.
C₂H₆O is C₂H₆O, (+/- 0.03%) is my point. Does it matter where the alcohol came from? Another something I read about the "best" alcohol a particular industrial RSO maker used was from grape seed. Why is one better than another?

I've been dabbing Ultimate Jack today. I'm not usually into Sativa so I am really wanting to talk about the different alcohols. But I'm not going to because I'm surprisingly amped and do not want to make a Sativass out of myself.

[Ckbrew]

You know what an azeotrop is correct? As soon as it is opened it will start to dilute itself to 95%.