Hash talk

[Smallgrow]

Yes darker green is usually more plant matter(contaminants), I can always see in the latter washes the patties of hash go from tan to green.
With bubble hash at least, the age of the bud/trim, indoor or outdoor, and trichome colour (ripeness) can really make a difference too. From light tan to dark dark brown

[Gingerbeard]

In this round of processing, I used the driest bud I have ever used. The color, taste, and smell are the same as I have ever made.
I'm cool with it in bud and hash. But the taste of dabbing C is off-putting.
Of course, my ultimate is the cleanest resin I can make. Of course, the folks who put out what I buy (and want to make) have more equipment than I will ever have and use solvents I do not care to use.
In resin, the darker the product the fuller the spectrum. It is like beer. Original beer had stuff in it that made it more of a meal than party fare. You got something out of it. Then people started refining the beer so it is more about getting messed up than nutrition.
Anything we make just ain't like the thing we made it from.

[Bluey]

I don't know, but if you cure your buds first the chlorophyll will break down.

I'm reading about making different types of hash and what I getting from the different processes us that the darker it is the more plant material in it.

[Gingerbeard]

Well, brown water. Not green. I've always thought the brown color of the water was the dried chlorophyl. Am I wrong?

[Bluey]

Can not curing assist with getting rid of chlorophyll? Or do you make from fresh bud?

[Gingerbeard]

Just read the Ed Rosenthal tincture method in a post on the main site.
Soak ground weed in water for 90 minutes to help leech out chlorophyl. It's Ed and I have to give a master his dues but getting rid of all that extra water sounds like a pain in the ass. In my experience, moisture is the bane of marijuana extraction. Necessary, at times, but a pain in the ass to get rid of what you don't want.
I see where he is coming from. Something I alluded to in this first post was what to do with the water when making bubble hash. The water is super dark from the first wash and it gets lighter as it goes. I can see this playing a roll in quality. The final washes will have the purest trichomes with the least chlorophyl.
My take is getting rid of chlorophyl.

[Smallgrow]

Thanks! I’m totally lucky to have what I have. An expansive cold room for production is handy too, although I’ll admit I only wash out there and the rest of the production I do in the warm. Having a wife that puts up with all the gear and even helps is also a bonus.
My problem is time, I work all the time, so I never have as much as I would like.
I’ve learned to do hash and post harvest drying during the cold months so I don’t have to run the AC during the drying period and can just pull free cold air.
To dry the hash before press its best to have 13c (55f) for a week or so , that amounts to a lot of AC if it’s warm.

[Gingerbeard]

I did what you have going on. The biggest dig is the scene you setup with the snow in the background. All I see out my windows are concrete and houses with ugly trees. Yes, there are ugly trees.
I want everything you have going on there, but storage and workspace are limited to what is basically a large motorhome. I use the gallon size bags and buckets.

[Smallgrow]

Here my last run with the Green Thai that I grew on my roof untill it snowed last fall.
The hash turned out decent, the plants weren’t that potent so the hash isn’t crazy either
The second time I used my hash washer instead of a drill, it is a much nicer way to do it.
Ive messed around with all the bags like in the pic below from an earlier run, but I’ve settled on using 190 bag to catch the garbage, then 160, then straight to 45 which is my work bag,
so it’s a full spectrum. Plus less bags less hassle

[Gingerbeard]

My fears are completely irrational. I know that. But they keep me warm at night.
A metal bottle would work just as well.

[Smallgrow]

I would recommend care with the bottle , but I have done it dozens of times now and never a problem. You really don’t need to press down on it very much the weight of the bottle is almost enough. I do splash a small amount of water in the bottle at the beginning to warm up the glass and don’t fill it to the very top

[Smallgrow]

I follow Frenchies process as close as possible , and agree with Mr.F that he is the master of modern IWH

[Bluey]

I keep the ISO @ -20⁰C simply for better storage. It degrades fast if not perfectly sealed at room temp.

I'll be doing trim. Buds are too valuable in my mind to be messing around with iso when I've never done this before. I can get plenty more iso so happy to experiment with pour overs as well as the quick shake method and then through the paper coffee filter and then evaporate off the iso in a baking tray or similar.

I've smoked hash quite a few times but not in the last 25 years and wanted to revisit the experience and I'll have too much trim to store it.

[Gingerbeard]

There is a tradeoff making QWISO as there is with any extraction method Bluey . The longer your material sits in solvent, the more will be stripped. I saw a video where the people kept harping on the Q. The ISO should do nothing more than pass over your material into whatever collection container you have. The not quick ISO is RSO where plant matter is soaked for hours or days.
If you do it too quick, you miss stuff. If you do it too slow you get stuff you do not want from the plant.
Seems to me there is no need to freeze alcohol unless you plan to winterize. Bud is frozen to harden trichomes so they break off plant matter, stay firm, and don't stick. Solvents literally melt trichomes to remove them from plant matter. Same-same with nug smashing. Freezing the alcohol will make it harder to dissolve the trichomes. Another something I read explained the warmer the alcohol, the quicker and better the trichomes were dissolved.
My best quality QUISO product process would be room temperature ISO over whole nugs for a couple seconds. Winterize the solution. Filter. That is a whole lot of time and waste for a small return but will have the least by-product.

[Bluey]

Just looking for a quality extraction using iso, not Tom Cruise recommendations