Holiday Treats -(here we grow again)-

[TOKABIGONE]

ooooweee I can't wait to start my next photo run. I'M going for PPP!!

[BU2B]

Update 44: Saturday 6th of November, 2021. Week 5 Day 6. This will be the last photo update for Week 5. Week 6 Photos and updates will resume approximately Wednesday November 10th.

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[BU2B]

Very good point Ckbrew Todays cannabis is not the cannabis of old - sometime for better, sometimes for worse and unless you're growing auto's and just letting them go; there's actually very little that is natural about growing indoors. Due to the nature of what we are doing indoor grows MUST be done in a way that is not 'normal' for the plant. Finding the method that works for you and for your plants - no matter your growing medium - is what's really important. I think growing indoors requires more immediate attention on our plants needs, how they grow, what they need and how to produce the best yield and quality and a lot of that involves manipulating a plant in a way that it would not grow naturally.

[Ckbrew]

An observation on grows. I would guess that about 60% of hydro grows seen on this site have a touch of nute burn on the leaf tips, slight yellowing. I have read that some people look for that as a sign of the most nutes a plant can take, then back it off a bit from there. These plants in the wild usually do not experience such an abundance of resources at their roots, but then the genetics of these plants have been selectively bread for their respective properties so they are not wild plants. My hypotheses is that this type of burn is just a side effect of having their environment enhanced to push them to grow so fast and large. Does it matter if the leaf tips are slightly burnt if the plant in general is healthy and produces a high yield? It is not natural for a cannabis plant to have it's roots submerged in water all the time. In fact, it can cause problems. That is why you use an air pump in the res to increase O2 correct? Just speculation.

[BU2B]

I don't have definitive proof - but here's my 'speculation' on why I see nute burn:
I think my growing medium is prone to it regardless of the amount or type of nutrient used.
I think it is also a respiration issue. Ideal water temperate for hydro is about 68f for two out of 3 grows my tub temps average about 75f. I think with warmer liquid and ambient air temps respiration for the plant is increased so that more nutrients are taken in by the roots. Once upon a time I used to actually try my best to stick with the guidelines for hydro, liquid tub temp about 68f, I changed tubs out and did all fresh nutes and liquid every 10 days to 2 weeks. In the end I found that those guidelines still did not eliminate nute burn for 2 out of 3 grows. I do think that certain strains are more prone to it than others - generally broad lighter colored strains seem to show the effect more than darker leafed hybrids. I also know that it has appeared suddenly on more than one occasion when I allowed tub liquid level to fall below around 8 inches from the top of tub. Too much nutes in a rapid respiration environment is my guess on that one. But, over-all I'm not displeased with my grows - just would like to do better. I'm not sure I have a set answer for why I experience this issue and it's quite possibly a combination of several factors at play AND I do flush my plants for the last 7-20 days so I know they're not loaded with extra nutrients they don't need. I will continue to work on the line between healthy happy and potent and having nice looking plants as well. I'm always open to suggestions and thoughts - I'll take whatever help I can get. Yet, I've always told fellow growers that the goal is to grow the best bud you can, maybe not necessarily the best looking leaves.

[Smoklahoma]

Forgot to add to add that I do nute changes weekly. But must confess that I do not add water through the week which I'm sure is part of my problem.

[Smoklahoma]

I have a total of 1.8 dwc indoor grows under my belt. Both have suffered nute burn. 1st grow ran at 50% recommended by mfg., still burnt. 2nd grow started at 50% nutes, lights at recommended 36" but at 40% power. Still burnt tips but the plants looked hungry. Over next couple weeks I cranked everything up. Nutes to 80%, lights to 90% and they seemed to love it. Still burnt tips. During this grow I had three extra plants outside in 5 gal pots with pro mix. They were feed twice a week with the nutes out of the dwc res. No burnt tips. Gotta have something to do with roots being submerged in the dwc. I don't know but planning on seeing burnt tips on all future dwc grows.

[TOKABIGONE]

Interestingly when I spread them open again I found buried deep inside a very few leaves showing obvious light burn but they were deep inside the middle so it must have occurred when they were younger and I never noticed it. Just here and there in 3 spots. Yellow tips and sawtooth edges yellowed. Surprised me! Remember I have 300 w of led light at 15 inches on 24/0. Tops and all else look great. No harm done but hmmm!

[TOKABIGONE]

Next grow baby...next grow!! haha! Your 5 1/2 week flowering is looking about like my 7 1/2 week from sprout! Go autos! No I'm going back to photos. More is better!

[BU2B]

I’d appreciate if those of you following along would mind sharing any ideas or thoughts you had regarding nute burn. It’s something I have struggled with to varying degrees since growing in hydro. I have my suspicions of why this is is happening but before I reveal my thoughts on the matter I’d really like to hear from fellow growers.

Here’s my specs:

• Hydro grow,
• ALWAYS use ½ to ¾ of the nutes called for on the label with the exception of bud enhancers and additives like Cal/Mag and Hydroguard.
• Over the years I've tried different brands of nutes with the same results - nute burn on tips especially during flowering
• Average water temp for 2 out of 3 grows 75f.
• Over 24 grows and I still get slight nute burn on 2 out of 3 grows - amount varies by strain
• Average tub changes per grow excluding issues requiring a tub flush - 4.
• More of an issue if the weather is warm

Your feedback would be very much appreciated. Thanks in advance.

[BU2B]

Update 43: 11.04.21. Week 5 Day 4. 32 Days (about 24 days left till harvest)

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Not much to report really - a few leaves have gone away and the girls get wider every few days as I re-wire and continue to spread them out. Here’s their latest photos:

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close-ups: Chocolate Mint OG top. Banana Kush bottom.

[BU2B]

she's a real sweetie - I think you'd like her.

[Going2fast]

Nice bondage. Gotta try some chocolate mint of. Seems to be a popular strain.

[BU2B]

Consider this option - no line and 1 plant as opposed to 4 in the example.

[BU2B]

Ckbrew rather like a bloomin' onion from Outback. I remove leaves BELOW the lowest flower on the branch but don't lollipop the colas until very near the end of the grow. Once the structure for the framework is in place it will easily accommodate stretching the plant out without breaking or snapping branches.