The Great Auto Showdown

[LurkingInTheGrass]

NOT AN emergency update


Thing 1
23 days from seed

roots in the nutes!

I saw she had teeny little roots on Sunday - but, today they are well in the nutes
topped at the 3rd node, cotyledons and first not real leaves stripped
slight pot modification (had to move the eye bolts inward, away from the edge of the bucket)



Thing 2
17 days from seed

no roots yet ... soon.
the wonky leaf issue has cleared up - she is inflating a lovely 3 fingered leaf, just a little slower
3rd node is a nice little bud mass
no eyebolt modifications, to pot.


many non-denominational, appropriately seasonal, greetings of Peace and Joy to all

[D.A.A.S.69]

Looking great, LITG.
HappyHolidays
HappyGrowing

[Juicyj89]

Dang 50% indica?! That’s crazy. I guess even though it’s mostly indica some hybrids still show sativa traits? Cause I mean unless I just don’t know shit lol that def looks sativa. Man, even after all this time these plants still amaze me.

[LurkingInTheGrass]

@juicyj89

Lol, I had to check several times, those long narrow leaves...
They did good work on the strain and/or I got lucky with seeds, both plants are almost identical (like you noted) even the timelines have been similar

[Juicyj89]

So I’m almost sure that I know what this is but I want to ask to make sure. I’m feeling like I have a little calmag issue mainly with one girl. So I guess I’ll order some but it won’t arrive until after the new year. Hopefully it won’t affect it too bad until then? Idk I’ve never had to address this issue. But it does seem like the newer growth looks healthier. I just want to be sure. I went ahead and posted the rest of the girls. They seem to be doing pretty awesome. I’m sure by this weekend I’ll be topping at least the two strongest. Then there’s the “runt” that the cat tried to decapitate. She’s profoundly smaller. But still looking good. Still despite my desert like temperatures they’re growing by the day under this MH. Gotta give it to the sweet tooth so far.

This is the “calmag” questionable one

These are the 2 top runners

the “runt”

the whole whole little fam


Anyways, if anyone could point me in any direction with the plant in question I would really appreciate it. Don’t want to lose out for something preventable. Tia.

-Juicy

[oldjarhead100]

thats early good catch its mostly on bottom leafs it could be a N deficiency are they in dirt or coco in dirt how are you watering ,in coco they look dry.how far away is your light

[Retodd]

Don’t worry about the cal mag bro. I’ve never used it in my life until this grow. I figured screw it, I’d give it a try. I’ve always just mixed my own soil from scratch for 20+ years. OJH is a masterful grower. You can mix up some fish emulsion to add. I’m a all natural grower.

[Juicyj89]

Yeah that’s what I thought too. They’re in a mix of Foxfarm Happy Frog and some generic soil. I thought it might have been N too but I’ve been using Big Bloom and Grow Big so I kinda figured it wasn’t that. And my lights like right at 18” away. But if it’s not a big deal then I won’t worry about it.

[KTM690]

My Moscow's have shown themselves first auto grow off and running

[uncledoug]

Cool, I have 3 that sprouted on Dec. 20th, plus the 1 that is Thing 2, thing 2 is 14 days old. I'll be watching yours. Best of luck/skill to you.

I also have 3 in the flowering tent, last I measured they were almost 2' tall, humm, think I mixed up my seeds and they are really SweetTooth. lol Time will tell.

[Doubledealing72]

A 24ish hour time lapse of the Bubbasaurus Rexa. She is at day 15 today and looking good! Very slight leaf curling going on so I raised the light.

My gorilla glue auto might be immortal lol. Day 118 and still going strong.

I got my seeds yesterday that I ordered on black Friday! I'll be popping a Bubba Cheese and a white Widow CBD when this gorilla glue finally decides it's time.

Happy holidays, and merry Christmas everyone!

[Rwise]

I dropped 3 more seed, a Himalaya blue diesel, a sweet tooth, and a snowryder. The snowryder I was certain was a bad seed, all white and small, I was not inspired but dropped it anyway. The sweet tooth is up first, followed by the HBD, and this morning the snowryder has sprouted, I am surprised! I was ready to give it up and was preparing another starter.

[oldjarhead100]

thanks for sharing that rwise Ive always tossed the little white seeds now I feed them to my bird lol did you get it from a seed place like seedsman ect.

[Rwise]

I got these seed from N420G, if it had been a bag seed I would have tossed it!

[uncledoug]

Thing #2 has a weird skin peeling off the trunk, I've never noticed this happening on past grows. Not sure what to make of it.

[SinsemillaScientist]

The skin peeling ive had happen in dwc its usually from explosive growth. Its the outerskin bbn splitting usuallynleading to the cotyledons. It happens right before they curl up or fall off. Congrats she has entered full veg!

[Juicyj89]

Yeah mine are doing the same right now. It’s just means they’re beefing up that stem getting ready for you know what. 😉😉

[uncledoug]

Thanks, I was hoping it was a normal event, she has grown a lot the 2nd week.

[BurningTeddy]

Thing 2 is pushing out pistils everywhere already!

[Mr.furley]

Merry Christmas little lady....

[BurningTeddy]

Thanks all. Today's day 19 above ground Juicy.

[oldjarhead100]

thats about right I have found for me most autos start showing pistil around day 21 thats why its so important to keep everything perfect so they wont slow down

[Juicyj89]

OMG!!! 😮 I was just trying to start lst on one plant and broke one of the bottom growth tips. You think this will stunt it?? Or have any other negative effects? I’m so pissed cause I tried it on my best looking plant.

[Juicyj89]

Dang yeah I should have elaborated a little more. I actually broke it at the base of the node where it meets the main stem. Like it snapped completely off basically. It was just hanging by a little strand at the bottom. There was really no chance for tape. To small and didn’t want to risk any further damage. I aborted lst and am just going natural. Oh well. 😔

[BurningTeddy]

Gotcha, ya you'll be fine.

[Juicyj89]

Alright good to know. Thanks teddy

[oldjarhead100]

I'm really liking this thread You might have to go back a page everyday to catch up , its cool how we all have issues and all try to help with those issues ,Just like its supposed to be lol, I have to go down early this morning I went down yesterday and checked on them and was planning on going down after everyone left but by 6pm my butt was dragin so I blew it off my bloom is automatic and was fine but I need to fill the res this morning , I'm hoping the 4 plants in the auto room are done soon but they are really bulking up so I keep leaving them lol . The autos for this grow are almost at the edge of the 1 gallon pots so they will need to go in there forever homes soon

[Retodd]

Hell, I’m happy as you you joined it buddy! Speaking of helping,I have a question for you. I’ve read and studied tons of different ways of growing indoor since starting the last one. One guy I follow on YouTube uses molasses during his entire grow. I’ve only sugared my plants during the last couple weeks. I thought about adding a bit of molasses from here on out, but wanted to ask another fellow grower with tons of indoor experience. As of now I’m just using my terpinator and cal mag with distilled water. I mix everything in a 1/2 gal jug. You think a teaspoon of molasses to that would be beneficial, or just continue doing what I’m doing?
Thanks buddy

[oldjarhead100]

more like a table spoon ,yes I use molasses during the whole grow , once a month I give my girls some soil mycrocorise (the little things that work with the roots ) and the molasses feeds them ,it doesn't hurt anything and it has some good stuff in there to

[Retodd]

Thanks OJH

[Anoney]

Day 8:
My ladies are really starting to get going 😍
Growing fine under the CFLs so no need to change lights at this time, almost time for new pots too. 🙄🙂
When do I start to add nutes?

[9fingerleafs]

Is that coco?? You should be already using calmag

[Retodd]

I’m with uncledoug on this one. I use the red solo cups to start and cut holes in the bottom. I like them to be big and healthy and a bit rootlocked before transplanting. There will be 1/4-1/2” root coming out the small holes. Take the scissors and cut down the side, but after you have the hole ready and the soil is soaked. She’ll come out in a nice chunk of root ball and won’t be in shock on transplant. I already had 3 nodes before transplanting my JR. if your using coco only,you’ll need nutes. Most of mine come from my soil I mix on my own. Good luck Anoney

[oldjarhead100]

when the leafs reach the edges of their container they need to be transplanted and It is my belief that Autos should never be root bound it slows them down to much, I transplanted some seedling into gallon pots of coco yesterday. I mixed up weak nutrients grow 2 tbls (Normally 4) voodoo juice 20 ml and just a touch of extra N Ill explain about the N below and I watered with it yesterday

[KTM690]

Ill b moving my Moscow's to keg cups today they are about 2 inches up now. Hope my photo grow starts to show more signs of ending soon think the jack herer is going to lag on my tie dye is on schedule to finish in a week or 2 which is ideal. These Moscow's will have buds on them before they hit my main tent lol

[oldjarhead100]

KTM690 keg cups that has to be a regional name but we all knew you were talking about red solo cups lol

[KTM690]

Lol OJH I'm in southern vt awalys called keg cups here

[D.A.A.S.69]

Hell, that's what we call them in Dixie ,too,lol

[Retodd]

Pruning is always a sad day, but for the techniques I’m using on this grow I have no choice. Doing these types of grows I have to prune once a week. You can see how much I took off both. So far on Sr I’ve got 16 future stalk/to be colas. Jr has her 4 and starting to train her for either a spiral or 90 degree runs. Not sure yet. It’s not Saturday, but you’ll see the difference by then when I let them grow out a bit.

[Retodd]

Juicyj89 This is the creator and multi award winner. I designed and built this box just for fluxing.

https://www.420magazine.com/community/threads/light-addicts-quick-guide-to-fluxing-featuring-the-original-flux.208400/

[Juicyj89]

Whaaaat????!! Fluxing okay. That’s crazy. Never heard of it. I’m gonna go check it out. Looks hella crazy.

[Canuck147]

Looks great!

[DimeBagKilla]

Hey everyone,
Hope you all had a great and green holiday. I am at a loss for what is going on. I really need help as you can see by the pictures. I have searched through the growweedeasy website but being my first grow I really am still dumbfounded. I planted my seeds on December 1st and I have stated it early but just to have it on these post I am going to repost my set up as well as what I have done. Growing Ak-48 from nirvana

The setup:
630watt cmh light/only using one bulb at about 4.5 feet off the plant tops/on continuously
4.5'x4.5'x7' tent
6inch exhaust fan w/ carbon filter running on low constantly
ultrasonic humidifier/average humidity is around 50-55
Temp in tent is at 75-77 degrees on average
Using 5 gallon grow pots with promix hp soil which is non-nutrient based perilite mix
Nutrients are Biobizz lineup and photosynthesis plus

I had been feeding .25 gallons of ph 6.8 filtered water every third day but this week I felt I had been overwatering and have switch to .1 gallon every other day. I have only fed them once with my nutrient line at 1/4 strength. The lower yellowing had been present before the nutrient feeding. I welcome all comments and really just want to learn and gain new knowledge. Thanks in advance for any replies.

[D.A.A.S.69]

You are very welcome DBK.
Have fun.

[Retodd]

I should have added that I know my soil really well. I also do a finger method. I’ll feel down a 1” or so and if it’s not moist and still dry I know I need to water. Understand that I mix my own soil completely and don’t use any type of pre mix or coco. This is why my flux box IS a wooden box. DAAS is totally right and knows a hella lot more than I do on indoor growing. Without any of us being right there it’s totally hard to tell. I’d go with what he’s saying tho. Again, good luck

[DimeBagKilla]

Retodd don’t sell yourself short buddy. Everyone knows someone who knows more that’s why I’m happy to have found this forum for my first grow. If anything it will be a big learning lesson. I lowered the lights to about 24 inches above my plants and pots were dry and watered 10 ounces. I’ll check back in on Saturday. Thanks again grow family

[Juicyj89]

So I topped my 3 biggest plants. I feel like they’re doing well enough. I left the 4th and smallest one untrained. Just gonna see if it catches up or if it does much at all. Anyways, I posted my pic from Saturday and the pic I just took just to show the difference. I’m pretty satisfied. These things grow so quick and the stem is getting thick already. Freakin crazy. I love it. Happy growing. JJ


12/22/18 12/27/18
<Pic from today

Mr.furley so it hasn’t even been a full 24 hours since and I’d say you were right. They’ve damn near doubled in size! I feel like the heat is def slowing things down a little. I’m trying to get it under control. And then there is the potential calmag issue but I should have some arriving tomorrow so I’ll had that just Incase. Otherwise I guess I’ll see y’all tomorrow!!

[Mr.furley]

Juicyj89 when you learn how the Optimum cut time works, you will see your plant sometimes double in size overnight. see you Saturday.

[LurkingInTheGrass]

@Mr.furley
please, could you expand on that? 'optimum cut time'
more than just making sure the plant is growing, and can take a cut?

[Mr.furley]

I think Juciyj just found it!
After you cut a time or twenty-seven, you find a sweet spot were cutting speeds up growth and does not slow it down one bit. The pictures above explain it best.

[Doubledealing72]

Day 17. I love using this camera in my tent to snap pics and make timelapses. I would highly recommend if you're a fan of timelapses. Here's a 46 hour timelapse, and some pics that have much more detail.

Have a great day everyone.

[oldjarhead100]

I went a bought one of those wyse cameras and went to play well they are for a 2.3 htz wyfi I have 5 g htz system so it wont work is there a way to change it back to a 2.3

[Doubledealing72]

I forgot about that. I think it has to do with the router. When my wifi pops up in my phone settings, there are 2 different options to choose from. I had to switch mine to the 2.3 htz to get it to work.

[Retodd]

That is pretty cool!