Retodd , I've done everything wrong that I could have done. What I have gained, however, is knowledge. My seeds didn't come from a reputable seed bank, but they popped out of the soil on 11/17. The soil I was using was too hot PLUS I started them in the peat pots. Between the two, their growth was stunted. At 5 weeks, I saw a picture of Furley 's plants at the same age and I knew I had fucked it all up. By then I had moved them into buckets, and more hot soil. I replanted them back into cups (one had become a boy by then) and into better soil with perlite. They took off then. My second white widow turned into a boy...and then there was two. Yesterday I saw seeds on my last 2 plants, Blue Dream and Girl Scout Cookies. Don't know if I just stressed them out or if it's the poor genetics from the shitty seeds. I decided this morning to chop them down and start over. I've got good feminized seeds from 420 and I'm anxious to get them germinated for a successful grow #2, and pictures will be journaled!