Roots Fruits

[Rootsruler]

02/17/2024

Temp - 75°
Humidity - 52%
VPD - 1.26 kPa
DLI - 32
Leaf Temp - 74°
Under Canopy - 74°/51%

Canopy isn't really changing much so I'm not going to post a picture. I will post a picture of one of the flowers. I was thinking mid February for chop but it looks like I may need to go a couple more weeks. Some of the colas are starting to lean over a bit but not enough that I need to trellis them. Still tapering down nute solutions. Currently feeding at 600ppm but will be dropping to 500ppm after this next feed.

[Rootsruler]

02/23/2024

Temp - 76°
Humidity - 53%
VPD - 1.26 kPa
DLI - 32
Leaf Temp - 75°
Under Canopy - 75°/54%

I think I may be close to harvest. Still showing new pistil but far fewer. Also seeing leaf fade starting. I'm going to guess maybe a week. Maybe two.

[Bluey]

That's looking nice. Great ppic too roots.

Can you get RH any lower moving forward?

[Rootsruler]

I can probably get it down to around 45% - 50% if I turn on the dehu.

[No3odiesShad0w]

Amazing!

[Rootsruler]

03/03/2024

Temp - 76°
Humidity - 59%
VPD - 1.07 kPa
DLI - 32
Leaf Temp - 74°
Under Canopy - 75°/54%

It's been raining for the last few days so been having some problems trying to get humidity down below 50%. Even with the rain I've been able to hover in that area. It's high now because I just watered but lights on RH has been averaging around 52%. Forecast is calling for more rain so I don't see myself being able to drop it below 50% even with the dehu going. Trichomes, for the most part are all milky. Just waiting to see some amber heads show up although I'm tempted to cut them down next sunday. I flipped these on 11/18. That means I'm in week 14 going into 15 from flip. If I start the clock from when I first saw flower I would be in week 12.

Just starting to see some fade happening in the rear back corner although most of the leaves are starting to darken up so more than likely fade will really start to come on in the next week or so.



Under canopy. I didn't leave much room between the soil line and the net line as I knew access would be an issue so I did a preliminary lollipop when they were young and let them go from there. Looks like not too much larf.



Just waiting for some amber heads to show up.

[Going2fast]

Beautiful. Having the same issue with humidity. These warm days I struggle to keep it under 55.

[dirtymike]

I just replaced my two fans (el cheapo) with one a AC Infinity S6 Gen2 like the one in your pic Rootsruler With the setting on 5 i can't hear it with the tent closed. Nice fans. Your system is top notch. It sure shows in your finished product. Wheres me pipe

[Rootsruler]

Thanks dirtymike and Going2fast ! I appreciate the compliments.

I've had a few of their Gen 1's that died on me after a while so they sent me a case of 4 to replace the ones I've bought from them. The next run I'm going to set them up so that I got 2 on top oscillating in opposing directions and, maybe, the other two on the bottom although I have a different idea for under the canopy.

I have to say that I really like these Gen 2's. My ACI rep, Nick, told me that you can daisy chain them also so you can have them in series but only have to plug one into power.

They also have a natural wind setting where they raise and lower fan speed to mimic nature on their own.

[dirtymike]

Im still trying to learn there apps for BT before i get a controller Rootsruler You run a 69 ??

[Rootsruler]

I don't but I will be upgrading. I have the original C67 that ACI is starting to phase out.

[Rootsruler]

03/10/2024

Didn't want to wait for amber to show up as I was getting into week 15 so I went ahead and cut them down and hung them. Now the fun begins with trying to keep them as close to 60/60 as I can. Humidity shouldn't be a problem, but temp may be as we're gonna see some sunny days coming up out this way. I took a lesson from @Zen_seeker and decided to re-set the net to be able to spread them out and get some air in between the flowers but it's pretty damn dense in there so I have a feeling I'm going to have to separate the branches from the main stem and line hang them. You know you grew some weight when one of the main branches splits off the main stem because the flowers are so heavy!!!

Set the fan to high and pointed it at an angle to the back wall so that I get a good swirl going in the tent. I'm going to try and run them at around 45% - 50% humidity the first few days then raise it back to 60% to get the initial moisture out of the plant.

I'll start removing fan leaves in a couple days depending on if I have to separate branches from the main stem or not. If I have to remove them from the main stem I may do a rough wet trim on each branch before I line hang them.

That was more work than setting up the original damn net! Phew!!!

It's Miller......Sierra Nevada Time!

[Bluey]

In my view the first few days drying is where it's at and the slower the better here in my experience.

I have picked up a second hand wine fridge for free, about 200ltrs, and it maintains humidity around 60% and temp can be varied from about 8⁰C to 18⁰C. It should hold about 1.5, maybe 2lb if wet trimmed.

It's a hack solution but it may just work brilliantly. Have to fix the thermostat first though

[Rootsruler]

There's a seconds store down the street from me where they have around 40 - 50 wine fridges of varying sizes. I was tempted to maybe pick one up and see if I could get it to work as a dry/cure chamber but they want $500! For a seconds appliance? Pass. I may look into a dehydrator called HerbsNow. They're around $200. Check it out.

https://herbsnow.com/

A couple of trustworthy sources told me it works well and can usually dry your bud to storage level in 96 hours depending on how much you load into the machine.

I agree that low and slow is the best way but it's pretty dense in there so I want to try and keep it dry enough to not promote any mold by removing some of the bulk moisture and then allowing capillary action to rehydrate, evening out the moisture content throughout the plant. I might have to separate the branches from the main stem and line hang them. It's essentially solid flower from the perimeter to the center of the plants with a few leaves thrown in for good luck!!

[Bluey]

Keep an eye out on your local market place listings.

Drying/curing of plants is a closely guarded secret, intellectual property, of most commercial growers but I do know they use fridges to obtain the best possible dry. Even then they are losing about 50% of the plants terps.

I'm going to experiment with this and try and slow the initial dry right down over the first few days, maintaining about 60% RH but starting off with lower temps and slowly raising them.

Last dry I completely stuffed it in my grow room. I would have been better off with no fan at all and the AC stripped the moisture out of the buds way to fast even though it maintained a reasonable temp. I couldn't keep the RH where it had to be and we wet trimmed too...everything added up to a way too fast and a bit overdried...I had to slowly rehydrate in the jars. I got better results hanging them as a whole plant in my garage for 2 to 4 weeks than trying to control it in my grow room. This grow will be a combination of the garage and fridge to compare.

[dirtymike]

Wheres me pipe

[Rootsruler]

03/14/2024

Average Daily Temperature - 71.3
Average Daily Humidity - 61%

Water leaves are starting to crisp up a bit. I may start to remove the branches from the main stem today or wait one more day. Doesn't look like much leaf material that I'll need to remove on rough trim. Set up another fan to create a little more swirl in the tent. I'll raise the net and hang the branches off the net.



Underneath looking up

[Rootsruler]

Bluey LOL! They're both pointed at the wall so no direct air on the flowers! Air speed inside is like a gentle breeze blowing.

[Mollisol]

It was a good idea moving the net

[Rootsruler]

Mollisol This is the first time I've done it this way and it looks like I've found a new technique for dry and cure as far as hanging them. I got this idea from someone else so I can't claim it but I love that I get double duty out of my nets.

[Gingerbeard]

Hung like a champion!
I did not consider SCROG could work for drying. It is not something I will do but it gives me the idea of putting up a net up when hanging branches.
You gave me a good idea so I am giving you a thumb. G2F will be so jealous if he sees this.

[Rootsruler]

Hahaha! Lots of ways to skin that cat!!! Glad I could make your journey to trim jail just a little easier!

[Rootsruler]

Have we met before? LOL!

[Bluey]

There's 4 plants I did on an 8 x 5 net Gingerbeard last May. It's really convenient.

[Rootsruler]

I made the horizontal bars I used for the ScrOG out of some metal electrical conduit and hung the net on it. I used 1/2" PEX hose clips to clip the bars to the corner poles. The net I have is the elastic kind so I stretched it out and zip tied it to the bars. The corners have hooks. This allows me to be able to slide the horizontal bars up and down the corner bars but stay in place when I need them too. Once I get all the branches hung I'll lift the net higher so that I get a good look at how they are progressing.

[Bluey]

The way I did mine I can't easily lift the net as I have 2 curtain rails along the wall that sit in hooks that are screwed into the wall. I kept it pretty high though.

[Rootsruler]

I just realized I can't lift the net higher because my filer is in the way so I'll just leave it where it is and line hang from there.

[Rootsruler]

03/15/2024

Average Daily Temperature - 72°
Average Daily Humidity - 61%

Removed the branches from the main stem and hung them on the net. I wanted to raise it higher to make getting under it a little easier but I forgot that my filter is in the way. No biggie.

[Gingerbeard]

Do you have issue with branches closer to your exhaust drying out faster?

[Rootsruler]

Not really. I try and place the branches away from any direct airstream. If you look in the pic you can see the space I left around the filter in the back right corner.

[No3odiesShad0w]

I noticed mine dried out faster by a day or 2. The ones furthest from the vent took longer.

[Gingerbeard]

Y'know, I took a glance at the pictures before that last post because I did not see a gap in your plants or vent for your exhaust. I'm talking a handful of looks since yesterday.
My setup does not look like your setup and I was blinded by the difference. It still took a couple more looks to see your filter.
Your canister draws from all sides. However many sides there are to a cylinder. I need to figure something like that for drying instead of the fan hanging in the vent. It is a very linear draw. Maybe pull the fan outside the tent.

[Rootsruler]

My fan is located on top of my tent with only the filter in the tent. Next run I'm going to dispense with the canopy oscillators and hang a box fan from the top to pull air up through the canopy and out, via the exhaust fan. This will eliminate the need for having to buy expensive fans that die after a year or so of continual use.