How I average a pound per plant

[JohnEmad]

poor little solo cup plants. Even my cloned autos outdid them.

https://forum.growweedeasy.com/forum/growing-community/372385-auto-clones-test/page2

[MeEasy]

I see you still suck at tiny plants. Just the time you could save on trimming if you could just grow smaller plants. It's not that hard


this pic is from the internet I had to look for a visual to add to the joke.... lol

[BU2B]

I’ll address how I handle clones but until I get the post up. Here are the girls today - week 4 day 2 of flowering.

[JohnEmad]

I agree that clones are a bit different as the have offset nodes so it won't be like a new plant.

[growell]

Ok mate i know what u mean now u just top centre branch to make v then top the ends of the v just another question on pic it shows takeing of fan leaves when u do that also i going to be doing it on clones mate so can u keep me in mind mate if i put pics up will u help me through it cheers

[grouchyoldman]

Growell, I wonder if the asymmetrical branching pattern of clones will work with this method? BU2B seems to rely on "normal" branching to achieve his results.

[LemonBuzz]

Grand pounder . Where is the journal. I just got one out of 12 of my white rhinos to germinate from the full moon finally. Ha Ha

[BU2B]

It seems that several have some questions regarding the actual topping of branches; I am hoping that if a picture paints a thousand words that a diagram is worth at least 500.
Here is an image viewed from above, showing your core plant structure and flowering growth tips (i.e. what will become flowering tip/branches)

Though I'm jumping slightly ahead - please look at the diagram; IF your plant has a basic structure like the one above, you will already have 44 or 46 flowering branches on your plant (including the 4 or 6 upward growing of your 'new' horizontal branches on either side of the Y). The amount grows exponentially as your plant grows new nodes. You can absolutely 'top' each branch growing horizontally off of your main Y, not just the end of each side Y. What you want to consider if you are going to 'top' each horizontal branch growing off of your main Y is that you are spreading the growing area of each branch to twice its size but adding only one more flowering branch as well as slowing plant growth. If you just allow your plant to grow naturally without 'topping' the tips of the horizontal branch; your plant will add 3 new flowering tips in the same amount of space. It is the 'topping' that slows a plants growth which is why a traditional manifold structure adds time to your grow. Using the manifold method is basically - 1 topping = 2 tips (allow to grow out), top again, 2nd topping = 4 tips (allow to grow out), top a 3rd time, 3rd topping = 8 tips. With straight forward Manifolding getting up to 16 growth tips can add an additional 3 weeks to your veg time. With this method (hmmm, maybe it needs a name other than modified manifold) you should already have over 40 'flowering tips' by week 6 - with more coming all on their own as the branches grow outward and upward until the end of vegetation week 8.

Keep in mind that at the same time you are keeping an eye on plants basic structure, you are also doing regular 'indoor' plant maintenance such as defoliating to keep 'flowering tips' exposed, LST to keep your canopy level, and dealing with any health or pest issues.

[growell]

Its basicaly like a manifold but your not cutting any branches off your 2 horizontals but are u topping the end of your horizontals when u have 3 on each side or are u topping the 12 branches coming out of the horizontals mate i know u cutting what grows underneath horizontal i got some clones that are at the right stage now for this femenised i growing them under metal halides the nodes are tight together will thhis matter or is it a case of just spreading as much as i can mate

[BU2B]

If you use this method on them, please let me know your results.
In fact I would appreciate hearing from anyone who uses this method in the future along with any tried and true improvements or suggestions.

[BU2B]

grouchyoldman - if you will scroll back up to post #18, image 2 it will hopefully make a little more sense. You are basically topping each end of the 'new' branches (each side of the Y) at the end making it split, just as you did for your initial topping that created your plants Y structure. You want to do this when the plant has 3 horizontal 'sets' of leaves. IF you top just after the 3rd horizontal node you will have 8 growing branches on each side (including your two vertical branches).

[JohnEmad]

Nice, You seem to have gotten the formula for bigger plants down to a science.
I have some clones I am doing similar things with. Not DWC but coco so see how they perform.

[BU2B]

👋 Good to see you 👍🏼

[Gingerbeard]

"You suck at growing little tiny plants." Goddamn funniest thing I've heard all day. I shall drip candle wax in my ears so as not to hear anything funnier.

[grouchyoldman]

Thanks BU2B for this informative post! I see the logic behind your method and will try it on my next grow.
One question though on this sentence:

"When your plant has grown to the point that there are 3 branches growing on each side of the new branches we are going to 'top' the ends of each of them so that they look like this --<--<--<.
>-->-->--o--<--<--<"

Your next pic shows the intended structure and I see the 3 branches, but the "topping the ends" you mention isn't obvious. Can you explain a bit more about that?

Thx in advance,

-Grouchy