I challenge you to a duel!

[Farmall]

Gingerbeard I tend to think you’re going to need to use additional tactics to get the plants to accept the increased wattage without burning the leaves. My LEDs can exceed these numbers but I must dial them down or I get leaf problems. I also tried CO2 but my exhaust fans suck it out faster than I can blow it in and I never tried to balance the two. Monitoring those CO2 numbers is around 850 to 925 which is not too shabby but it would be better off at 1500.

Not sure of the cost of these lights but as I hear it, there are big lighting changes in LED coming soon... kinda like led tv’s. Last few years they’ve dropped in price and risen in quality

[Gingerbeard]

Thanks Farmall
I'm thinking about adding a 150. 83 w/sf isn't a huge drop from the 87.5 I'm getting now. My distances have been good. Never an issue with light burn.
The only extra CO2 my plants get is if I breath heavy into the tent.

[Farmall]

I was thinking you’re shooting for a higher light output. I had those LEDs just a touch over 55%output. It was BRIGHT . The beauty is it is not hot. The heat sinks barely reach 84 and remote drivers get about 120 -130 at full power

[Gingerbeard]

That's the thing, Farmall. Being still just inside of my first year of growing, I'm happy with the light I'm getting. I don't know any better. I'm looking to add more light only to take care of the extra 1x2 space when the dividing wall is removed. Do I need more light per square foot? Is 75 w/sf enough? Is 100 w/sf too much? Dunno. My setup is super simple but quite effective so I don't know if I want to increase the overall. l/sf. Only light on the 2 sf I'm adding.
My average plant dimension cannot be more than 2'x1'x2'.
Dabber needs a walk. 2:00 and 5:00 this morning apparently weren't enough. Good thing I love that dog...

[Mr.furley]

50 actual watts a Sq ft is a is a good number, 75 is getting high.
I have a 3x4=12sqft tent with a 600 watt light,
600÷12=50 watts a sqft Gingerbeard if you need a link I can provide one.
What you need is a par meter.

[Gingerbeard]

I'll take it Mr.F.
I don't think I'll get a par meter. It would only be used once or twice then sit in my dope growing nic-nak box. I do have a water/light/ph soil probe. The light numbers hit 1000 whatevers at 20", down to 500 whatevers at the periphery.
I've been at 87 with no burning or bleaching or other light issues. 100 w/sf is too high. 50 w/sf seems low. A 450 watt LED would keep me pretty close to where I am. Budget wise a 150 would be better. Still time do decide. Hell, I have more decision making time than most people who have to make decisions. I average .75 a day throughout the week so as not to stress.

[Gingerbeard]

Out... seeds got intercepted at customs in LA... MSNL was the sender.

[SoOrbudgal]

Sheeet what a bummer

[LurkingInTheGrass]

Lol Gingerbeard
12:01 am for you, is 4:01 am my time (and PaganRich will be ~7am)

Mr.furley
Thank you for clarifying use of a Clone
I was considering clone, (was thinking we could 'plant' a rooted cutting) but if we cant cut until 00:01, and it takes 4-7 days to root..

NO SHORTCUT FOR YOU!!

LOL

[Mr.furley]

LurkingInTheGrass

Don't need ol Mr.Furley transplanting a six month old(cough,cough)cutting from a 4 inch to a solo cup at midnight now do we.

I feel that a clone and a seed have that gestation time, not all seeds germinate, not all clones root and by having a cut time the same as the soak time it keeps it fair. This was the original post about clones

https://forum.growweedeasy.com/forum/growing-community/341078-i-challenge-you-to-a-duel?p=341192#post341192

I do want to hear from peeps if they feel this is fair/unfair?

[Farmall]

Mr.furley. 🙏. Not me

[Farmall]

It’s well over a year since that happened here and I was just thinking...ok, maybe I’ll order some.... as Gilda Radner might say “never mind”

[RagWeedDWC]

Roseanne Rosannadanna

[RagWeedDWC]

Just mark me up in the column that does :-)

[Spidermite]

Wilder is in my basement making sure the tinctures are shaken monthly. He isnt dead. The Oompa Lompa's water my plants.

[Gingerbeard]

LurkingInTheGrass
Getting up at 4:01 am is way easier than 12:01 am. PaganRich … that's just not cricket.

[Farmall]

I see a Universal Coordinated Time requirement coming

[LurkingInTheGrass]

Lol, I'm a night owl
Can we trade? I will drop your seeds at midnight:01 and you can get up all bright eyed and bushy tailed and take care of mine 😁

[Gingerbeard]

There is nothing bright eyed or bushy tailed about me when I wake up at anytime.

[Gingerbeard]

And how many people are going to be too stoned to remember or too drunk to be sober to do this? I bet I won't be the only late submitter.

[oldjarhead100]

I usually go to bed around 8 pm and wake at 12, 2 and up for the day between 3 and 4 so I think I wont worry about when I drop the seed, hell I'd be happy with being a late started that would mean I would have slept though the night and I can count on one hand the number of times that happened in the last 20 years lol

[s62]

I always see you posting early as hell in the mornings. I’m up because of kids, but I often see you’re up too!

[Spidermite]

Oh and I'm gonna sleep in that morning. I dont need the extra 12 hours. Lol

[Canuck147]

I think we should be pretty much playing on the same field - let our grow skills (or lack of ) the genetics of one's plant and the choice of nutrients decide the outcome.

The one thing we are all using is that red cup - so what are everyone's plans for their cup?

Me - I have punctured a few hundred holes with a pin. Here is a blurry pic.

[Tersky]

That technique looks familiar...I will say in my test, the cup with holes in the sides grew faster than the cup with just bottom drainage holes.

[s62]

That’s almost exactly what I plan on doing to mine, Canuck. Going to make it as fabric-like as possible lol!

[Spidermite]

I'll figure it out that day. About noon probably.

Anyone thought about cutting long strips out of the cup leaving just enough cup for it to still be called a cup and lining it with women's hose? It would be like a cloth pot. I think it would work. May need to block light to the roots but that's easy. Put it in a cup cozy. Lol

[Tersky]

Canuck147 Great minds think alike right?

[Gingerbeard]

How old are those Tersky?

[Tersky]

Oh in those pics i think they were almost 2 weeks old. Just bagseed.

[billyboy]

I am going to for cup appeal. Cut holes and line with cheese cloth. Tie off with an elastic roaster harness... truss... thing ..:-)

[billyboy]

I am just going to grow for broke (ba-dum-tishh).
Don't forget to tip your waitresses. (Man that Blue Cheese is happy-good)

[Gingerbeard]

Won't light through the mesh cause problems?

[Spidermite]

billyboy I hadnt seen your post until after I posted basically the same idea above. I think women's hose may work better than cheese cloth but I could be sadly mistaken. Gingerbeard I brought that up in my other post. I jokingly said to put it in a cup cozy. But that was a joke. But you probably should block light to the roots. But that's an easy fix.

[SirSmksAlot]

Hope it's not too late to join in. This sounds like a good time!

[Mr.furley]

You are good and welcome SirSmksAlot
the grow off starts Jan 1 2020 at 12:01 am PST