Try growing without tons of chemicals

[KTM690]

Using all these crazy chemicals on plants is getting out of control. I'm seeing so many new things and crazy things getting used on plants that are being smoked or used for edibles. Some list are like 10 items long grow bigs, booster, grow more, grow even bigger, grow even more lmao. I'm sure this will get some people excited as some of my post do but its like cheating using all the chemicals to grow weed. I see some post of Chernobyl looking buds and plants that claim to b grown by a person not a chemical lmao. Fake tits look great but they arnt real. But this is our world now I guess ( look at me I bought a 30 dollar seed cannabis cup winner lol and gave it crazy amounts of chemicals and ( I) key word , grew these huge toxic buds). Same as the medical shit that when lit sparks like a firework. Well that's my rant happy growing all or happy cheming I should say

[Rwise]

Those chems may (or may not) make huge buds, I dont use them, I like organics! To me even with flushing, those heavy chems leave a bad taste, and what I have seen here from the shops is harsh! (not to mention over priced @ $2000+ per lb)

[Weed Pharma]

Yes, the marketing machine has created insanity, IMO.

There was a Polish horticulturist who tested/studied/published 7 different feeding style/types etc. (in soil) a few years ago on cannabis.
Jorge Cervantes had him on video explaining the study.

The very best results in quantity and quality came from an organic soil with adding just minerals.
Second best was organic soil with good quality water.

Those results changed the way I grow.

The problem I see, is the nutrient manufacturers making claims which may have some "science" behind it-
The amount their nutrient effects the grow- are simply splitting hairs of the actual significance.

[Mr.furley]

[KTM690]

Lmao furley you have the best post

[alltatup]

Mr.furley I'd like a side of fava beans and a nice chianti with mine.

[Toker1]

Haha! ....It does what it’s told or else it gets the hose again.

[starramus]

"Fake tits look great but they arnt real."

Sold to the highest bidder. He has more money than brains. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dYDi6OO4o0

[SommerVirelli]

Yeah salt based nute lines haven’t been my thing either. I went organic and couldn’t be happier. I haven’t had a nute lockout or pH problem in years. Lots of good options out there right now. You got guano lines, Nectar for the Gods, and even Advanced Nutrients just released a certified organic line. As long as you’re feeding your soil beneficial microbes with them, you’ll never see a greener garden.

[Toker1]

Water is a chemical. It’s not organic by definition. Are you saying you don’t use water?

[KTM690]

I guess I have no idea what I'm saying. Sounded like try growing without 109 different things added to watering just putting it out there. Keep it simple stupid ill take simple

[KTM690]

Look again at how plants use up what's in their soils or water

[Toker1]

Understood. Any good system needs to be lean. So I know what you mean by K.I.S.S., I just like to think about what is available in perfect soil for growing mj. Personally, I use a mix of organic and and synthetic. I also use plenty of beneficial organisms. A healthy soil is key to great success.

[Cali]

Love your rant lol I just made the switch to all natural

[Smokesteve]

Organic has always given me great flavor and smooth smoke. But when it comes down to it your plants need NPK and various other trace substances to thrive. Essentially the salt based nutrients are already broken down to the most readily available form. That being said I will only ever grow organic.

[KTM690]

I'm a golf course superintendent so I'm into all the chemicals. And have studied enough to be as organic as possible with grows. A few days ago a buddy of mine who sadly has cancer brought over some med weed. I was blown away at how bad it was. We stopped and I brought out some herer I have and he was amazed with it. Gave the poor guy some to take home and told him to see me if he needs more. My point of the rant was from what I've seen on here most are growing buds that would crush the meds but also some are getting crazy with the nutrients happy growing Thanks for feed back

[Toker1]

That’s commendable of you. Each is their own with nutes...Totally agree about not overdoing it.

[KTM690]

For sure I could care less about what anyone else does with their shit. And I know there's way worse shit I put in my body by breathing and eating and sleeping and drinking and everything else we touch smell or can't see. Was cool to see that every post had something different to say. I'm excited to get my current grow finished its my first grow with my own compost and amendment's mix only used water and some molasses this grow.

[Potted]

I think moderation in all things including nutrition of my grow is important (1/2) of manufacturers rec.dose is my norm sometimes less Is more😁

[Toker1]

Agreed. Although mies van der rohe was speaking about ornamentation in architecture when he said “less is more”. It still applies to this discussion.

[Cali]

It’s still not natural anything synthetic. Like pumping chickens with anything to make them big at a faster rate than they would normally. I feel if it’s for medicine it shouldn’t be grown synthetically. Think about it you grow with chemicals that you have to flush because they make your product taste nasty. When I thought about it, it didn’t make sense to put chems into something that then I don’t want to have wtf??

[Potted]

Hell, at least half the generic medications that are prescribed by doctors are made synthetically, saying that if the plant uses up all chems before harvest or the chems are flushed away.
As long as chems are absent from the end product, what’s the beef?

[Toker1]

Not following....I never flush. Just remove nitrogen from the diet 2 weeks before harvest. You condemn synthetic nutrients but continue to grow mj indoors under artificial lighting with your heat or ac pumping. What else is natural about your grow besides nutrients?

[Rwise]

Potted thats the problem I have with big pharme today, I myself have problems with the synthetics,,, here take this it'll fix that, and take this for the other issue the med causes,,,

[Cali]

Lol relax guys it’s just my opinion on synthetic fertilizers. I have no beef with growing that way. That’s why I don’t like meds they’re man made.Like I said on my earlier post I just made the switch from dwc to soil. I first started with soil but hate having to ph my water. I love the way plants grow in hydro and I find it easy except having to clean the resevoir every week lol. Plants get huge and heavy. Not a bad thing. It’s just I always wanted to grow weed easy and organic soil so far is the easiest I’ve found no having to ph my water or runoff from soil. No cleaning resevoir. No having to worry about ph pen calibration. No more buying bottles to feed with. Etc,etc. I’m just glad I have tried the tutorials here on GWE except coco coir but it’s like dwc I think and now I found a way that’s not on the tutorials but hopefully will be soon so I can see the differences in styles and like I said I love the way they grow in DWC but gotta give organic soil a try that’s all. When I first decided I wanted to give growing a try was because I didn’t want dispensary bud and growing with bottled nutrients is pretty much like dispensary bud (to me) plus I thought I was growing organic buds but I wasn’t since I was using bottled nutrients.. That’s my opinion and I’m just a beginner in the growing world I started 3 years ago and still learning.

[KTM690]

All the post have been great there's many ways to grow. I agree Cali haven't bought meat in a store forever we raise our own. I grow my weed the same. I know what's in it and that was the main reason for this post. I was getting curious to see others ways and opinions on the nutrient front. There's tons of nutrient lines out there now and tons of lies about it, like u said about the chickens. Greed has taken over like always lol bigger faster more faster bigger more. I'm excited to post this yrs outdoor grow planted in the ground only getting water if it gets dry out. Using same compost as indoor tilled into the natural earth makes for some great plants happy growing