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To many kola's

SoOrbudgal The timing of removal is a critical component and unfortunately it varies depending on a growers style, training method, space and lights. For me, I start in the very beginning in Veg when I train for my base plant structure, 4 mains then topped again for 8 mains, all other nodes get removed. I may keep a few around specifically to cut for clones but otherwise they get removed. Once I have my base structure set I won’t remove any more until they are a couple weeks into flower and then a few more a couple weeks later. As you said, overcrowding needs to be addressed, so for me it’s addressed as they stretch during the early weeks of flower. This way I can keep those side branches that grow up into open space but remove those that would have caused crowding.
 
You wrote, "Is Quality and Potency always associated with Quantity?" My understanding is definitely not. Gorilla Glue gives a "moderate yield" (whatever that means) but is super-high potency, and I know some strains always produce really huge buds, but may not be as high in THC %.

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Well my assumption was all things being equal, and you're right making everything equal is not easy. It also depends on drying and curing ect but i was more focused on yield than potency aspect. If done correctly the smaller colas should have the same weight in terms of yield, however i'm sure there is a point where there are too many colas and not enough space for buds to develop properly. Now on potency, i would have to say idk. I want to say it would be the same or almost as good but i have no evidence for that. I'd like to know that too but i dont have the resources to test it.
 
I tried many variations of cola size vs quantity vs time and have found the following to give the best in yields and bud quality.

I top all plants once at the 5-6 node and then look at the plants structure for LST-
Often I trim up the bottom one or two nodes leaving me with 8-12 main cola's.

I ripen those cola's and chop the first 9"-12" when ready - then adjust the light for a staged harvest in another week or two.

Trimming is easier and the larger cola's can be seperated to give a consitant size range for the entire harvest to cure/store properly.

My overall yields are the most when I use the above method.
 
alltatup the first auto I grew was a NLights from Nirvana, I didn't know how they grew, but on this one I trained the hell out of her ,to keep her flat, an got just a couple of grams short of 8ozs.dry. I've grown a few more like that, but that was to much work for me, I'm old, lol.
I got to liking , cutting all them other ,bud sites off the stalk after bending them over, an only leaving 8-10 colas, called heads ,back in the day, and they got bigger, plus it was alot easier. That was when they was saying you couldn't top an auto. I was gonna put a picture on here, but I don't guess I can.
 
This I can tell you for sure. 8 to 10 main colas and they are easy to grow, make huge buds, and dont need much attention. When I let the plants do their thing the stems are much weaker and need support. I'm to the point that easier is better than yield. "Inside." The plants I yielded so much from required support for every cola. It was a pain in the ass and I will never do it again. I'd rather have 10 well supported colas at 6 ounces than 40 that you have to support everyone.
 
Almost quadlining, you do be! I’m going to try these instruction on any of my new girls that are growing fast enough.
 
I agree Spidermite i never will ever grow a plant indoors without training. You have a lucky space to grow in. It can be a pain in the ass who want's that? I just want great quality for indoor. Heck i'd be happy with 6-8 colas 3" around and 10" long buds just packed solid. I may just have to grow 2 photos in my tent to achieve that though.
 
many grows ago i was waiting to move and did not want to transport plants in flower. i just kept topping them because max height was reached in old place. top top top top . ended up a shitload of all index finger sized tops.wieght was still good 4ounce plants. . but i didnt even trim them, sooooo many tops.just let them get extra dry and stripped the branches by pulling through tight gripped figers
 
One thing I really wish I could do is adjust the height of my lights: not being able to is a definite drawback.
 
Totally agreed! There is a point of diminished returns. Only, there is no cookie cutter answer. Some strains do better than others. Some stalks grow longer and wider than others. Light, wind, and structure is what I try and focus on for fat buds.
 
Wow what a response .Reading threw the thread what I got was that to many kolas will reduce the size of the kolas , but maybe not total yield .
also that a plant has a max yield regardless of how its grown , IE if a plant that has the ability to produce 8 ounces it will produce those 8 ounces if given the proper things but will not produce more than 8 ounces no matter what you do .
I do believe that a plant will only get so big ,it can be tall,or short and fat , This year I topped the woods girls every chance I could until they went in the woods, most of them grew about 3 to 4 feet tall and wide perfect for the woods, while my GH grow I continued to top until mid July, the results were they grew taller and wider but produced the same yield ,a 3 or 4 foot plant produced 6 to 8 ounces then the green house was in the same range , I will also throw out that the average weight per plant was 6 ounces I had a couple of 9 ounce plants and a couple of two ounce plants from both places .

A friend of mine just had neck surgery and his plants needed to be Lolly popped so I went to help he said something to me that really caught my attention , he said that on a stem the fan leaf at the bottom of that stem is what powers it ,if your happy with the length clip it if you want a longer stem leave it ,I dont know if this is true .I'm going to find out lol
 
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