I counted time in veg 10 weeks and no balls but no pistils either the calyxes are long and pointy but no hairs ,I had them all out for bondage day and there was only 2 that I had real concerns about being male ,we will see , believe it or not I think cloning is easier than seeds once you get the hang of it, although I'm setting myself up for a crazy spring with all the seeds I started , I figured 5 of each strain I should get at least one female then clone her for the rest of the needed plants its my plan lol