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The Great Auto Showdown
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Spidermite
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Very nice looking plants. It being summer here you may want to open the plants up by heavily defoliating them. Looks like your in the flush period. 2 weeks is a perfect time to do it to prevent mopd and bud rot. And if you do it like me you get extra mj along with it. I was going to explain below.
Colombo
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Well my reveg of Motel 6 ScrOG frame? Thinking outside the box. grow really left me with smiles and laughter that it wanted to start all over again LOL. I left the shell in the sun and rain waiting for the mulch pile and suprise. I think I will attempt this with the CY-Clone shell. Some updated photos. Enjoy ! You have to really respect Mother Nature !! Good Growing !!
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HappyDaze
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Anyone want to try growing a plant with that kind of frame from seed or clone in just three weeks? I bet the reveg beats the original.
I'm surprised that people who grow in soil don't reveg more. The couple of times I've done it, the results were at least equal to the initial grow and I saved a couple of weeks of veg.
I'm surprised that people who grow in soil don't reveg more. The couple of times I've done it, the results were at least equal to the initial grow and I saved a couple of weeks of veg.
Spidermite
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Ok it is flush time for all my plants. They have about 2 to 3 weeks left. So here is what I do in the summer to get extra mj to cook with or use for hash, oils, lotions etc.This is for inside grows.
First you train the heavily for 8 to 9 weeks. During this time nake sure to remove all leaves that block any growth tips no matter how small. You want to keep every growth tip you can no matter how small.
At the flip defoliate by just unblocking the growth tips again. At 3 weeks after the flip defoliate to unblock all growth tips but no more. Do not lolipop the plant or remove any buds or growth tips no matter how small.
Then here is where all this oddness comes into play. Two to 3 weeks before harvest, I do it when I start the 2 week flush, defoliate heavily. You want no buds touching each other. You want no leaves touching each other, and you want all the plants getting wind. I have 6 fans in my one 4x4 tent atm. All of this is just to prevent bud rot or mold.
Now the extra weed is now in your hands. When you lolipop you will get alot of popcorn bud. When you defoliate you will get leaves with trichomes galore. Save this they are pretty stout if you have run out of smoke. You can smoke it all. Just think big blunts. But I make hash or make caps out of the popcorn bud. This is also when I take my cuttings. Since it's in flower I remove the bud and it takes about 5 days longer to get on track but works.
Today I did the autos and 1 of the photo plants. It takes a very long time to do lots of plants. I'll have help tomorrow. Here are pics of before and after. Some are repeats of above just didnt want you guys to have to scroll back and forth.
Before
After
Before
After
After
Now no worries about bud rot or mold as long as the fans are going. And the smaller bids are getting full sun so will double in size in 2 weeks. In the winter I dont do this because the humidity is low. Next I'll post the start of the photos which are real easy to see even though none are finished.
Before
The pic below is after look how much was removed. If I had done this at week 3 after flip I would loathe out on 7 ounces of useable material already. And about 12 more between leaves and popcorn on 4 plants plus the back of that one. And now the plant will go into survival/hurry up mode and make more bud than normal. At least it has worked for me.
After
After
You can see before below and after above. The amount of popcorn bud per plant on defol is about 2 to 3 ounces. Will probably be another half ounce when done. But most of the buds that are still left will turn into respectable size buds
Before
they still have at least a day or two of work to go. I have gotten 35 clones, and popcorn bud when dried would be about 48 grams. The trichome covered leaves would be about 100 grams dry. I suspect the popcorn from the whole tent will be 12 ounces dried. The leaves alot more. I can make 100s of clones if I wanted to.
But I freeze the mj to use for hash or other things.
Anyways that works for me. Only one person teaches that and he is on one of the alternate defoliating pages on GWE. I just changed it to harvest the lower stuff and defoliate at flush on my own. And 12 ounces of popcorn is alot. That's why I dont count it in my total. It wouldnt be fair. I wanna win with top shelf bud. Oh here is a picture showing the height of the photos.
And here are the popcorn buds I leave of they now have light. They turn into respectable buds.
First you train the heavily for 8 to 9 weeks. During this time nake sure to remove all leaves that block any growth tips no matter how small. You want to keep every growth tip you can no matter how small.
At the flip defoliate by just unblocking the growth tips again. At 3 weeks after the flip defoliate to unblock all growth tips but no more. Do not lolipop the plant or remove any buds or growth tips no matter how small.
Then here is where all this oddness comes into play. Two to 3 weeks before harvest, I do it when I start the 2 week flush, defoliate heavily. You want no buds touching each other. You want no leaves touching each other, and you want all the plants getting wind. I have 6 fans in my one 4x4 tent atm. All of this is just to prevent bud rot or mold.
Now the extra weed is now in your hands. When you lolipop you will get alot of popcorn bud. When you defoliate you will get leaves with trichomes galore. Save this they are pretty stout if you have run out of smoke. You can smoke it all. Just think big blunts. But I make hash or make caps out of the popcorn bud. This is also when I take my cuttings. Since it's in flower I remove the bud and it takes about 5 days longer to get on track but works.
Today I did the autos and 1 of the photo plants. It takes a very long time to do lots of plants. I'll have help tomorrow. Here are pics of before and after. Some are repeats of above just didnt want you guys to have to scroll back and forth.
Before
After
Before
After
After
Now no worries about bud rot or mold as long as the fans are going. And the smaller bids are getting full sun so will double in size in 2 weeks. In the winter I dont do this because the humidity is low. Next I'll post the start of the photos which are real easy to see even though none are finished.
Before
The pic below is after look how much was removed. If I had done this at week 3 after flip I would loathe out on 7 ounces of useable material already. And about 12 more between leaves and popcorn on 4 plants plus the back of that one. And now the plant will go into survival/hurry up mode and make more bud than normal. At least it has worked for me.
After
After
You can see before below and after above. The amount of popcorn bud per plant on defol is about 2 to 3 ounces. Will probably be another half ounce when done. But most of the buds that are still left will turn into respectable size buds
Before
they still have at least a day or two of work to go. I have gotten 35 clones, and popcorn bud when dried would be about 48 grams. The trichome covered leaves would be about 100 grams dry. I suspect the popcorn from the whole tent will be 12 ounces dried. The leaves alot more. I can make 100s of clones if I wanted to.
But I freeze the mj to use for hash or other things.
Anyways that works for me. Only one person teaches that and he is on one of the alternate defoliating pages on GWE. I just changed it to harvest the lower stuff and defoliate at flush on my own. And 12 ounces of popcorn is alot. That's why I dont count it in my total. It wouldnt be fair. I wanna win with top shelf bud. Oh here is a picture showing the height of the photos.
And here are the popcorn buds I leave of they now have light. They turn into respectable buds.
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Spidermite
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Wouldnt let me post all the pics. Here are more to help get an idea.The weight of the popcorn and trichome leaves while wet.
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This is the size popcorn bud I leave to mature.
These are the size popcorn I leave to fill out to respectable size buds. Below is a plant that I havent touched yet. Look at all of and the size of the popcorn.
I will post pics when done. Hope I didnt bore you guys. The last pic hasnt been defoled yet. You can see why I worry about mold and bud rot.
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These are the size popcorn I leave to fill out to respectable size buds. Below is a plant that I havent touched yet. Look at all of and the size of the popcorn.
I will post pics when done. Hope I didnt bore you guys. The last pic hasnt been defoled yet. You can see why I worry about mold and bud rot.
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Spidermite
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I love reveg plants. They get so bushy and about 75% of the time increase their yields by 50%. Good job
Spidermite
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Anytime. I enjoy this hobby, and my job which is doing the same thing. Just with CBD hemp and mostly outside and greenhouse. I enjoy talking about it. Even though I'm always training new employees.
Spidermite
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Spidermite
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It wont let me load the other fields. Says picture exceeds data limits. But that's enough pics for awhile.
Spellbound
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...WOW
Spidermite
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ocgreen well more pics just for you. I will post the photos when I'm done defoliating to prevent mold and bud rot due to the high humidity.
HappyDaze the name you are using is a trip. Our tree farm is Called "The Happy Days Tree Farm."
Hope that info helps someone. I wish someone else would at least try it and see if they get more of both popcorn, useable trim, and especially more top shelf buds using that method. Maybe it just works for me but it sure does work for me.
HappyDaze the name you are using is a trip. Our tree farm is Called "The Happy Days Tree Farm."
Hope that info helps someone. I wish someone else would at least try it and see if they get more of both popcorn, useable trim, and especially more top shelf buds using that method. Maybe it just works for me but it sure does work for me.
Spellbound
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If I can end up getting 1/4 as good as you, I'll be happy lol.
Very interesting
Very interesting
Spidermite
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What state are you in? We are hiring.
Spellbound
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Michigan... And that has to be a dream job, man.
Thats seriously what would make me happy- being able to farm/homestead. have some animals. Right now my wife and I live in a city but I grew up in the country and thats where we plan to retire.
Its all off topic but I dont really believe that man was meant to live the way we currently do and its showing up in a stressed and mentally unwell populace. We've deviated too far from the land imho- And I'm one who loves our modern convenience, technology and generally easy lifestyles. But somethings certainly missing.
Thats seriously what would make me happy- being able to farm/homestead. have some animals. Right now my wife and I live in a city but I grew up in the country and thats where we plan to retire.
Its all off topic but I dont really believe that man was meant to live the way we currently do and its showing up in a stressed and mentally unwell populace. We've deviated too far from the land imho- And I'm one who loves our modern convenience, technology and generally easy lifestyles. But somethings certainly missing.
Spellbound
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What an incredible setup.
I have some very old hey, like over 30 years in the barn,,, the Headbanger is having issues with the heat, she dont like 100*F with humidity, feels like 106*,, so I have about 4" layer around her. I do have some outdoor in pots, they show lite signs of heat stress, but they get over it as soon as the sun is off them.
There is nothing wrong with fluffy buds,,,, more light (helps) make the buds tight. I have the same issue using CFLs, the GFs first plant was topped and kept short it finished with nice tight buds, yet she prefers the second plant with fluffy buds (for its pain relief) that was not topped and let grow out.