The Ganja Ged Thread

[GanjaGed]

Started the flush on the soils today. Needed watering and it was a straight water day anyways, lol. I'm gonna let them go as long as they will with the stored energy. Hopefully it will be enough to get me to a good harvest point!

Found some new shelves for the Ebb and Flow trays! I also found a reservoir that fits perfect which lets me drop another 6" lower to gain some head room. I'm switching trays down to 2x1.5 instead of the 3x1.5's I originally had. This will give me some room to deal with the res and such as needed.

New tent got pushed back a week or 2, had to help one of the kids through an issue, lol.

The nursery plants are mostly good. The only issue is Wonder Woman #1 is on the second set of leaves, but it's like the leaf stems are fused or something. It basically boils down to there appears to be no growth tip for the 3rd set... I'll get some pics up tonight or tomorrow? Anyone familiar with this happening?

 

[alltatup]

GGed, all the plans sound good. And you are so generous to take time away from weed for family!!! Just kidding: of course you'd be there for your kids!!!

 

[oldjarhead100]

I hear ya GG my kids are 37 and 34 and its always something, my son doesn't ask for anything because his sister is always asking lol, I have a separate savings just for her emergencies lol , she has 5 kids so there are alot and I always help if its for the grand kids. GG I understand the concept of the fnd table but just cant picture it in my mind do you have a diagram of a system

 

[GanjaGed]

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This is the graphic from GWE. It kind of shows the overflow "stack" wrong. If the water is going over it like that somethings wrong, most likely a clog or the overflow is too small. Also the plants sit on the table not suspended.

 

[oldjarhead100]

thanks GG that helped alot now I at least have a idea what your doing (you know us jar heads little slow on the uptake lol) I like the concept my friend grows hydro and he has lots of issues and uses way more nutes than I do but he gets increadable buds .I've managed to get close to his buds in dirt and I have half the problems so for now i'm good

 

[GanjaGed]

I'll likely write a bunch about it with the next grow Well actually starting with the next grow, I honestly don't see me abandoning the system ever, upgrading and adding accessories for sure, but the basic system will always be there.

 

[oldjarhead100]

looking forward to it, if no no when I clean out the rest of the back cellar, maybe I will try it

 

[GanjaGed]

The first grow is winding down now so time to take a look at how things went.

Even though I haven’t harvested yet, currently flushing, I can any day, so short of some disaster I’ve managed to bring the plants to harvest and that is success. Weight for this grow doesn’t matter. I’m sure I’ll weigh it but yield wasn’t the focus for this grow, getting plants to harvest in an entirely upgraded set-up including first time Hydro-DWC, LED lights, Tent, well everything actually.

So what did I learn?

First off, that I made the right decision making GWE my general guide and resource and that making the GWE community my home. This wouldn’t have happened without all involved, from tutorials to tips and suggestions, support, shared knowledge, it all comes together here. Thank you all.

I’m not sure I can quantify what I learned on this grow, the entire grow was a learning process as knowledge moved into application.Everything I thought I knew was right, and at the same time wrong, if that makes any sense. For example: I was correct I would need CalMag but I was wrong about what order to add it. I knew how to water and let dry but I learned how to properly manage watering and feeding amounts. But even more than the mechanics of growing I learned about myself and how to adjust to my situation.

I learned that I can find and that it’s ok, for some peace and happiness after Jeanette’s passing, and I can find it even in the chaos of my condition. From seed to bowl, cannabis has become a central part of my life, a cornerstone in my attempt to maintain as high a quality of life as I can for as long as I can.

Anyways, enough hippie crap, lol.

Overall I’m very happy with how the grow turned out. Though I’m happy to be done with soil, at least for now, it’s bittersweet. Nothing replaces the smell of well tended soil, or the feel of it. It’s one of those primal things, an ancestral memory, as old as our species, damn hippies! If it’s legalized here while I’m able I will have a small outdoor grow, just a plant or two will be fine. But Hydro is better suited for me all things considered.

There’s really not much more to say for the soil grow, it went well, esp. for 3 plants that were never intended to be harvested or thrown into flower much earlier than they should have. My focus lately has all been on Hydro, Ebb&Flow specifically.

I’m glad I ran the DWC, it’s an excellent growing system, it just “isn’t me” is the best way I can put it. That really is the extent of my issue with it, it just doesn’t feel right for me. I learned a lot from running it, and with all of GWE made it to harvest! I may have to cut them early, a late flower deficiency/PH issue wrecked havoc on the leaves and they are yellowing fast. Watching the buds and trichs, so I can cut before any actual damage occurs. I’ll forgive myself for some less than picture perfect looking buds.

There’s still a lot to learn about all aspects of growing, and I love it.

So what’s next?

Well, after these are out of the tent, or the second tent gets here, I’ve got 6 seedlings ready to go. The new thread for that will actually be my Garden thread as I’ll likely have it going from now on. I hope to maintain it for a long time, and share it with anyone who decides to read through, even if to learn what not to do.

Got the camera out today and think I’ve figured out how to take a basic picture… lol. So I’ll get some up tomorrow.

I’ve been writing this for like 3 days because the new meds are just wiping me out. I sleep from midnight - 3am till 8- 9 am, nap at 10 till noon for meds, napping again by after 4 and meds up around 6-7 then I usually can make it till bed….

They said maybe 2 weeks for the right buildup in the blood and to adjust to the effects… I do think I can tell, at least it feels like I can focus and access things a little better, might be wishful thinking though.

It’s strange because everyone always says “forgets” or “memory loss” but that’s not exactly what is happening, or at least as I can understand the Dr’s. The memories are there, but the disease makes it so the brain can’t communicate so you can’t access the memories.

Kinda funny right on the label it says This is not a cure, stay under Dr’s care. If it works it can buy me up to 2 years of symptom suppression, but when it’s done I’ll be much worse off than now. Progression will continue just mostly unnoticed.

Anyways, I been a bit scarce but I’m still here and doing fine. Ready to get the next run started!

 

[GanjaGed]

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As promised some pics

and of course

 

[alltatup]

GGed, that is a great write-up. You can't help it if you're an old hippie, so let your freak flag fly!!!

I also find, like you, that this community soothes a special place in my heart that was left empty after a death in the family. It's almost a utopian kind of experience: this is the one place I can go on a daily basis and know that I'll be understood and treated with kindness and friendliness, where I can share with others who have the same passion for our hobby. I've never had cyber-relationships before, and they are fun and rewarding!

 

[Aloner]

I'm pulling for White Widow #2 -- who doesn't love an underdog?

 

[oldjarhead100]

after my coma I was surprised to find out how much memory I lost ,my wife will tell a story and its like it never happened , I dont remember alot of good times but why cant I forget the stuff I dont want to remember, You are right GG about the forum, it is so nice to be able to talk with others that have the same hobby I've learned alot from the forum and hopefully helped a few alone the way and the best part I met some very increadable/ interesting people well I need to get moving I have a 930 appt with the va shrink not looking forward to that but it seems to help, I haven't killed the B next door lol never thought about the dog Its not his fault and I love dogs. have a great day all

 

[GanjaGed]

Widow #2 and Wonder #1

Widow #2 is just freaking amazing, lol. I wish I had of taken a pic of it in the paper towel. it was so tiny, yet so perfect in color and form. It literally got pushed out of the seed by Widow #1 and was a tiny fully formed seedling, green cotyledons and white tap root, but only about 1/2" big or smaller. I wasn't even sure I had enough plant to get into a rooter.

Wonder #1 had an issue on the 2nd leaf set. The stems of the 2nd set "fused" together and the leaves were like a first set, single blade. After a couple days of the plant seeming stuck, I gently went to see if I could separate the stems and the whole damned thing just split back to the first set. There was no growth tip or anything. After that, it's perking along like a normal topped plant. Hell once the messed up top was gone it didn't delay in growing.

First time for either of those situations for me so already an interesting grow.

 

[Tika]

Delighted to witness your next grow of passion!!!
Thank you for being so generous with your time and effort to post- most remarkable. Eager to witness your coming process.
a note- a biased note-could be offensive to some..too bad put the damned seed pointy end down into the root riot or rapid rooter slightly moistened with pH 6 water, give it a little squeeze on the top and into: What ever you choose next- netty pots? One step to saving the incident of root exposure. I think the paper towel syndrom creates more work for the germination / seedling process.
There..I said it!
Wish you well & 🤗 hugs

 

[GanjaGed]

I agree it is more work, but for whatever reason I just seem to have a lot of problems going directly to rooters. Seeds straight into soil, no issue, lol. Paper towel and let them pop out or mostly out of the seed, no problem whatever I do with them.

Part of it is I clone way more than I pop seeds and when I do seeds I always fret and stress until they're up and on the 2nd set.

Actually I moved away from net pots, at least for the moment. All of these have an empty rooter down into the flood level with the seedlings rooter sitting on top of it. The wicking action keeps the seedling perfect. For the first 4 days or so I just a couple cups of solution and wet the surrounding LECA twice a day.

My next seeds I'm going to take 1 and use cheesecloth. Take a long piece and put one end down in the flood zone, cover with LECA about an inch or two then lay the next section of cloth over the LECA covering the whole space, cover with LECA, and continue up to the top. The idea being to wick up into all the LECA and let the plant use the maximum amount of the container for roots.

One of the things I really want to see with this grow is how different the roots use the smartpots between the 1 and 2 gallon sizes.

Eventually I'll add drippers but for a while there are some other things ahead of that

All that to say, I agree, lol. For me it's just a matter of what works for me currently and now that I'm dealing with current seeds costing $10+ each instead of old seeds I don't remember the cost of, fewer problems are better

 

[GanjaGed]

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So what do you do when the connection is dry and will be for a while, you're almost out of stash and your grow isn't quite ready to harvest and you still have dry/cure time to go?

EXPERIMENT!!!

I've been curious about Water Curing so it seems like as good a time to do a small trial as any. So I cut a branch from a Hydro and from Momma, lets see how this goes over the next couple of days

In this situation, taste/smell isn't as important as staying off the damned pain meds, so here's hoping.

 

[GanjaGed]

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And the Hydro branch

I left a bit more leaf to see any difference. I think my hads were shaking a bit more on these pics, lol

 

[oldjarhead100]

never heard of water curing before this is going to be interesting

 

[GanjaGed]

If you thought defoliating was controversial open a topic on Water Curing sometime, lol.

The basic premise is that all the stuff that normal curing eliminates/reduces is done by the plant "digesting" these things, chlorophyll etc. but all these things are also easily water soluble, while the cannabinoids are not.

So after cutting and trimming the buds are placed in a container and covered with RO water and put in a dark area. Change water 1-2x a day for between 3-7 days though it seems that 5-7 is the sweet spot. Take bud out of water lay out on a screen and run a fan above and below to dry it out and done. A 3 week-2 month process reduced to about a week.

The RO water being low PPM draws the stuff out by osmosis.

Now the catch is that the smoke will have little to no taste or smell, although this seems dependent on some things for the degree of removal. They say it's oderless enough that the majority of people wouldn't know you were smoking weed right next to them. No idea about that.

The other catch is apparently it somehow reduces the plant matter which concentrates the THC into a smaller weight. So basically if you stared with enough wet trim to make a gram normally with air drying you might get .75 of a gram Water Cure but with the same amount of THC. Again no idea about the truth of that.

Oh yea and it supposedly makes it "ugly" or less bag appeal.

Now it also supposedly make it the smoothest weed you'll ever smoke.

If it works I can live with all of the downsides to keep off the fucking pain meds until I can get a normal harvest. Plus it would be a good thing for the bag of tricks to help recover from a lost crop etc.

Most times the discussion boils down to:

1) Doesn't work! Water bad! I would never do it! ( Ok so you wouldn't do it, never have and you're telling me it doesn't work... I'm not sure how that brings anything relevent to the discussion, lol )

2) Works great! I've done it for the last 100 years and it never fails! ( Ok mind sharing anything about the process? Thanks for nothing, lol )

And then theres the guy who started the thread, who in the middle of everything decides he's a genius and changes the process some way that's OBVIOUSLY doomed to failure or tries to work through a mistake/issue that's already going to be problematic and makes it worse, then abandons the thread with no more updates.

So screw it, I need some quick process to protect my pain relief, so I'll try it and if it fucks up I'll post it did and why I think it did, lol, and if it doesn't, I might try it on a bit larger scale just to have a method down incase I end up in the same situation again.

Also note that this also supposedly works as a flush also, no idea but that's what I gather.

 

[Aloner]

I'm watching with interest. And if the odor part is true it would be cool to set aside part of the harvest and make a "stealth stash" for special occasions.