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5 little beans
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NebulaHaze
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Keep us posted! I've never been able to keep HPS lights closer than over 80k lux without early leaf yellowing, so I'm definitely interested in how it goes! Your plants look great!
NebulaHaze
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GDTRFB95 That's a great tip! The whole idea is to freeze the trichomes off the plant so why not freeze all the plant matter first? Just less that the dry ice has to do! I can completely see how that would increase the yields and reduce green matter. I've found that if you put the bud and dry ice together in a bucket and stir them together for 5 minutes before putting them in the bubble bag that it also makes a big difference to yields compared to just putting the dry ice and bud directly into the bag together. You want the bud to be as cold and dry as possible when you start the process!
GDTRFB95
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My friend was explaining his technique and basically you take the fresh Frozen out of a sealed bag and put it into like a plastic grocery bag and put it back in the freezer for an hour then take it out and basically mixes it with ice chips and water put it into the refrigerator for 2 hours I think that's last step.. that's not dry tho it's just regular ice. Ive never done the dry ice. Everytime I've done it have used ice cubes and as well as blender. I have never done fresh frozen though either but we were just talking about this today
NebulaHaze
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Yes, the main way to use bubble bags is to use ice. The idea is to freeze off the trichomes. With dry ice (frozen CO2) it's like ice but it turns directly into vapor when it gets warm, instead of getting wet. You basically do the exact same thing to make hash but I like that you don't have to dry the hash out afterwards since it stays dry from beginning to end. (http://www.growweedeasy.com/dry-ice-hash) I've personally gotten better yields with dry ice compared to standard bubble hash made with ice. But I've aso found that each type of hash is different, and has slightly different effects! There definitely is no "best" 
intergalactic_harvester
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thanks for the great comments and input folks. and sorry i dont get much time to respond during the workweek. im up a bit early now, so i wanna update the lighting thing real quick.
im letting the light sit another day right where its at. i have about half dozen tops frying under light levels between 100-115k lux.
this morning ends the 2nd light cycle at these levels. the leaves on the center tops are all still nice and dark, the yellowing seen on them has not increased. edges slightly curled/yellow. veins yellow. but again, no increase in negative affects.
buds continue to swell, all have a brand new bud that by this morning are filling in over the new pistils they made. lower growth filling in much better now too. go figure, lol.
i do not believe at this point that the yellowing is caused by the lights. this is not bleaching. it smacks of high nute levels. the similarity of nute burned tips and the damage to leaf edges is pretty identical, and the leaves remain otherwise dark and healthy.
im theorizing that the high intensity of light is beneficial to the plants of this strain, depending on how much you feed them.
my ppms range 1200-1500 ppm over the week. this could explain how some folks can cram 1800-2000 ppm into this strain without frying them. i bet if i reduced my light back to 70k lux, i could do the same thing.
seems im getting more efficient feeding, using 25% less nutes than is possible, AND getting more light to my entire grow.
so, this will continue. if my theorizing is in the ball park, i should be able manipulate this way on other strains also, within thier own individual tolerances, of course.
light is priority 1. max the light. THEN max the nutes.
oh, one other note...
i have noticed thru these later stages that when the light first comes on, nearly ALL tops yellow substantially right away. after about 15-30 mins they darken right back up again and stay that way.
thats it. gotta get ready for work. happy humpday people!
thanks for the great comments and input folks. and sorry i dont get much time to respond during the workweek. im up a bit early now, so i wanna update the lighting thing real quick.
im letting the light sit another day right where its at. i have about half dozen tops frying under light levels between 100-115k lux.
this morning ends the 2nd light cycle at these levels. the leaves on the center tops are all still nice and dark, the yellowing seen on them has not increased. edges slightly curled/yellow. veins yellow. but again, no increase in negative affects.
buds continue to swell, all have a brand new bud that by this morning are filling in over the new pistils they made. lower growth filling in much better now too. go figure, lol.
i do not believe at this point that the yellowing is caused by the lights. this is not bleaching. it smacks of high nute levels. the similarity of nute burned tips and the damage to leaf edges is pretty identical, and the leaves remain otherwise dark and healthy.
im theorizing that the high intensity of light is beneficial to the plants of this strain, depending on how much you feed them.
my ppms range 1200-1500 ppm over the week. this could explain how some folks can cram 1800-2000 ppm into this strain without frying them. i bet if i reduced my light back to 70k lux, i could do the same thing.
seems im getting more efficient feeding, using 25% less nutes than is possible, AND getting more light to my entire grow.
so, this will continue. if my theorizing is in the ball park, i should be able manipulate this way on other strains also, within thier own individual tolerances, of course.
light is priority 1. max the light. THEN max the nutes.
oh, one other note...
i have noticed thru these later stages that when the light first comes on, nearly ALL tops yellow substantially right away. after about 15-30 mins they darken right back up again and stay that way.
thats it. gotta get ready for work. happy humpday people!
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intergalactic_harvester
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oooh, nother good tip! thx tika
intergalactic_harvester
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thank you !
intergalactic_harvester
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thank you CC!
NebulaHaze
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Love the canopy pictures! Your buds look gorgeous - so sparkly with trichomes they look white!
intergalactic_harvester
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thank you mr green!
intergalactic_harvester
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thank you nebula! im squeezin em for all a new guy can get!