2 plants one container

[Rwise]

I like to use "Voodoo Juice" when I transplant, it helps with root growth.
Before they get to large to manage, adjust the light time and use a low power light, no need for intense lights on a mother. Just keep it alive and happy until ready to take some cuttings, then turn the light power up so it grows.
19oz tops wow! keeping things even can be a task.

 

[GD69]

I like to use "Voodoo Juice" when I transplant, it helps with root growth.
Before they get to large to manage, adjust the light time and use a low power light, no need for intense lights on a mother. Just keep it alive and happy until ready to take some cuttings, then turn the light power up so it grows.
19oz tops wow! keeping things even can be a task.

Thanks again. I’m really gaining a better idea of how to handle the situation and am less stressed. Today we have a new problem that just shows again I didn’t learn enough or think it through. The soils couldn’t be more different. Happy frog and the living. The living is perfectly moist. The Happy frog in solo cup shape is dry. It was time for lights out. I don’t know that it matters so much at this stage but it’s rest. I’m going to wait to water till just before they come up. And only the center and see what happens. Hopefully I can get it sorted. Will start next time in a lighter formula of the living soil for consistency. So dumb.

 

[Cali]

In living soil that’s the best thing you can do specially in 30 gallon pots you can go 3 plants even 4 I believe. Only thing is the more the faster you have to flip to flower which is good cus you get to harvest quicker. Go to YouTube and look up Buildasoil, Jeremy the owner makes videos and he grows in 30 gallon pots 3 I believe in a 4x4 space and he shows you exactly what he uses how and why. This way of growing is not like with bottled nutrients which I believe makes it harder to grow multiple plants in one pot. This is the true way to grow weed easy in my opinion. Go check it out all your questions will be answered by someone who has successfully done what you are trying to do

 

[GD69]

In living soil that’s the best thing you can do specially in 30 gallon pots you can go 3 plants even 4 I believe. Only thing is the more the faster you have to flip to flower which is good cus you get to harvest quicker. Go to YouTube and look up Buildasoil, Jeremy the owner makes videos and he grows in 30 gallon pots 3 I believe in a 4x4 space and he shows you exactly what he uses how and why. This way of growing is not like with bottled nutrients which I believe makes it harder to grow multiple plants in one pot. This is the true way to grow weed easy in my opinion. Go check it out all your questions will be answered by someone who has successfully done what you are trying to do

Thanks so much. I really wish I had found them and him before I picked a soil. A friend (guy who gave me clones in summer) just bought property near me, is starting a tree farm and building a house. He was having tons of soil delivered and said what I need wouldn’t even be noticed missing etc. So, I looked up the Company. Vermont Compost Co. Being the hippie I’ve always been, I fell in love with the farm, process and history. Then I saw the “Jolly Roger” formula, specific for marijuana (Vermont) and the rest is semi sad history. It’s not the soil though. It’s me. To be honest, even having not seen, touched etc, I don’t regret the brand. I’m not going to replace hundreds of dolllars in soil either. Well, I couldn’t either way. This farm is not Build A Soil though and you aren’t going to get all that great advice, amendment ideas and products (they do have a recharge). Certainly not the hours of free YouTube knowledge. I watched two 10 episode series over night two nights in a row…barely any sleep. Which is why I need to watch them again, and the tons of others. I was stoned and tired and also checking phone etc. I missed some stuff, but I also ordered some stuff.

I agonized over everything. Products, seeds or clones, flipped out while seeds were soaking, thought I’d never make it happen and almost drove 3 hours for clones out the back of a dispensary. I read and watched. I went slowly so I’d have a better chance. 🤣🤣🤣🤣. I don’t know anything. I’m stressed. I’m tired. My body is aching because the tent is upstairs and I’ve had 4 back surgeries and a bunch of metal. That’s actually the first mistake. I need to change the story. That thing is coming downstairs to my bedroom. Who needs a dresser and the bed in the middle? Weirdos.

I can get this far and I have learned some things…

 

[GD69]

Another hard lesson. The Jolly Roger is not for germ or seedlings, it’s a little too much. You can use their fort Vee, or even the “lite.” I mistakenly thought, “I’ll just start in happy frog.” Still having no idea how completely different they are. The living soil was perfectly moist yesterday. But the ladies looked like they had been through hell. I was heartbroken for them. I put it together pretty quick, and checked. Happy frog, as well as root riot (which does draw up and evaporate) were bone dry. I think I just didn’t expect problem so quick or happy frog to dry as quick. (It’s not the first time a mistake made because I forgot the most important part. These plants I’m trying to grow, are going to grow 🤣). It happened with the 12” seedling light too. “Oh, this is perfect for a tray with 9 cubes in the center.” 🙄
They did what they’re supposed to do. Used the water.

Now, I have to say, even being the complete newb that I am, I realized when I was transplanting the first little one that it was going to be an issue. I wondered about knocking the soil away and even googled it. It can be done of course but I really decided it wasn’t a good idea for me at this point in my journey. I’d have killed them. I still may 🤯.

The living soil again was perfectly moist and began overwatered. I was so afraid. There were no plans to bring water anywhere near them. I had to do something. I mixed up 23oz of water with wetting agent, made a circle approx the size of the solo cup in the cover straw, and watered center out, all around with 3oz. I closed the tent and just hoped. I went up an hour later and no change. 2 hours, maybe a bit, 3 and I could tell they were responding. It’s a lot of trips up and down the stairs. There is too much going on to even think about taking them out, taking the tent apart, and back together downstairs right now. It will have to happen but I just have to deal right now. Carefully! Haha. We don’t want to end up with a 5th back surgery trying to grow medicine. I don’t know why I put it up there. I knew I’d have to go up and down, maybe just not quite as much. It’s not even always to open the tent. The climate control needs different things etc etc. Now I’m complaining 🤣🤣🤣. I know I talk and write way too much but there’s just no one to talk to about it. Family members are bored. Including the few that will enjoy the harvest if we get there. When it’s time, they may have to suffer a bit in some fun torturous way. Anyway, I think I’ve rambled enough. Here’s the girls yesterday just before lights out, and the same time this morning.

 

[GD69]

I think you may have put the horse before the cart but having said this yes it is possible to grow 2 plants in one pot. Would you want to as a beginner grower? probably not. but it is possible. Just make sure you know what kind of soil they are in...is it a type that will sustain the plants through their entire cycle as many super soils only have enough nutrients for 3-4 weeks.

do you check the PH of the water going in? do you have any supplemental nutrients?

Unfortunately a lot of beginners think that soil, water, and light are all they need to grow cannabis. It will grow, but it will not produce flowers (buds) or if it does they will be very small and not very potent. proper PH levels, full spectrum light, proper nutrients, temperature, humidity and good watering practices are all very important steps toward a good yield.

P.S. is that straw on top of the soil? Why?

I was just reading through everyone’s advice to make my decision and came across the the reply about absolutely needing to ph. I really have learned the things I know about the soil. Although I’m stumbling through sizes etc. I just learned that too late. I don’t even know that this soil maker agrees. That’s what build a soil says. I have no reason not to trust them though. Same concept. Maybe it’s the formula or main ingredients, which are different than most “super soil” recipes and brands I’ve seen, including build a soil etc. those seem fish based and this is equine manure and compost. Same concept, different percentages and sources of organics. The maker of this soil says not to PH the water. I don’t want you left with the idea that I just blew off your advice. I didn’t and would never. I appreciate every singe word. Truly. I also forgot to mention before that in Vermont, where the soil is, you can also buy seeds. No ordering and waiting. No shipping mishaps, privacy. I scored some sweet stuff from top genetics co’s. Now if I can only successfully grow these first girls. 🤣🤣

I am not running multiples in a pot. Even if it can be done, like you (i think) and someone else said, it’s too much for me to deal with. I am going to keep two (all I have light for) just in veg outside the tent for now. I’ll let my friends take some clones or practice producing them when it’s time. I do have what seems to be just a really weak plant. At least to what I can see. She’s just not performing like the rest and has had the same life. I may have to scrap her. I could and may try her in a 15. Probably won’t decide until day of transplant. I don’t like the idea. Haha.

Again though, thank you for offering advice and I do and will listen to all of it. When it gets confusing and different, I realize everyone has their own way and does what works for them. The way I chose, is really the only way it’s going to work for me, once I know what I’m doing. I’m not interested in being a chemist if there’s no reason. With all of your help I will get there. That and the hard lessons seem to be the only way. Here’s some pics after todays watering of…..9oz for a 3 gallon pot. It’s hopefully exactly between dry and wet.
✌️❤️🎼

 

[GD69]

Any idea what’s up with the tall lady in the back of the room? One of 3 of her kind in the joint. She’s so leggy and likes longer node space. Dad a basketball player? An incorrect seed? Just differences in genetics? She did get real early stretch from the seedling light only being 12” (so dumb) but it was off them quick. I’ll use it for a reading lamp. Haha. Sorry, I talk so much and leave out info. I can’t remember what she is right this second. I’m stoned and tired. Time for bed. I will update. I can say she is Gorilla Glue or Bruce Banner. Sorry.

 

[Rwise]

I hate to say it but watch for that one to be male, these are what a male does. That does no mean it is a male, just watch close.

 

[GD69]

I hate to say it but watch for that one to be male, these are what a male does. That does no mean it is a male, just watch close.

That’s gold right there. I was going to be watching anyway because I know feminized isn’t a 100% thing. Now I know to watch this more closely for sure. As well as a good reminder to be sure. I am pretty sure I’m good on what I’m looking for. Both are literally just what they are 🤣🤣.

Thank you!

 

[GD69]

Ok: so, this is why I need to say things out loud, take in the feedback, then think about them a bit before I make the moves that are best for me. I take every single suggestion with the same weight and appreciate them all.

30gal pots, for a guy who’s had 4 back surgeries and is full of metal and in pain a lot (no sympathy, just stating, been too long to feel badly, I’m good 🤣). Is going to be too much. What if I have to move them for any reason? The water they’ll take needs to be carried up etc.

I am using pots designed to keep moisture in and root trap, not air prune etc. I also will not be using any single pots for all that long. Even if I germ right in final pot. I can’t do that because the soil is too much. I have the lighter formula for next run so mediums are matched. It can and will just need a good recharge and a little time before the next use, as opposed to right away. I’m going to go with 7’s.

The 30’s will not go to waste because I believe they may grow me some fairly large outdoor girls this summer. I still need that fence though and have spent it all. Haha. I had to scrounge for Christmas presents for others. I still had them go in on something too expensive for me and not really necessary. The light controller. Haha.

 

[UndergroundFarmer]

I'm late to this thread and luckily you've already been steered to Build-A-Soil's channel. Just make sure you don't add pH adjusters to the plants' water. pH Down will kill off the fungi and microbes that make living soil (or any organic method) work. I fill a few buckets ahead of watering and by the time I use it, the water has sat at least 24 hours with an airstone going in it to keep it from going funky.

 

[SoOrbudgal]

Ya know you over think alot of this. Those look like fabric pots nothing special about them. Keep it short and simple.

 

[GD69]

I'm late to this thread and luckily you've already been steered to Build-A-Soil's channel. Just make sure you don't add pH adjusters to the plants' water. pH Down will kill off the fungi and microbes that make living soil (or any organic method) work. I fill a few buckets ahead of watering and by the time I use it, the water has sat at least 24 hours with an airstone going in it to keep it from going funky.

This is also driving me a bit nuts at the moment and I’m still just using regular spring water. I know I don’t have too. I don’t even have chloramine that would need a carbon filter. I can evap the chlorine like you said. I haven’t and won’t PH, even though I get yelled at…hahaha.

I do have a sodium level of 70ppm from the source. I’ve read articles that say anything over 50 is toxic to plants and in the 20’s is cool. I’ve also read it can be tough over time for our soil. Everyone looks at me like I’m crazy. Haha. Maybe I am. I’m just trying to learn and keep it going. The first 2 of my “earth boxes” arrived today so I’ll be getting those setup. I’m so busy right now I’m not sure how but it has to happen. My legs are jelly and I’m falling apart. Next run the tent comes down here. I don’t need an office. 😎

Thank you! ✌️

 

[TOKABIGONE]

I'm sorry dilvish but I have to disagree on the pH based on recent experience. I checked pH just before I planted them to find pH 7.3 from my filtered tap water which is in a range the soil can correct. I never did after that and had very healthy plants with never a leaf issue and good buds ultimately! This is directly due to a healthy microbial colony in the roots as a symbiote to trade processed nutrients (microbe poop!) for the plant produced glucose sugars. This allows the plant to use the energy for flower development that would be used if it had to process it's own raw organics and minerals to a usable form with a nutrient tuned pH regimen. Their poop is in a form that is available for immediate uptake by the roots and sent directly up for the plants to use. One issue with commercially produced "Living Soil" is they are blended with so little good amendments, they last only a couple of weeks. That's why i choose to mix my own to last the entire grow with supplemental teas to refresh what is known as the Clackamas Coots recipe for living soil. Recipes are online as well as in my just completed journal, The Auto Toka grow.

 

[SoOrbudgal]

whatever

 

[GD69]

The pots they are in right now are just simply Root Pouch fabric pots, yes. The newest pots, have a liner either inside or outside to prevent the overdrying. In all sizes, and each company is doing it differently. They weren’t here when promised and it was time. The ones I have that will now be used outdoors are coated on the outside, made by the original “Root Maker” people. They’re all the same price comparatively etc. That’s all scratched and I’m doing earth boxes, because I will get full soil benefits and be able to move them easier. Just overthinking so it’s done right. Not thinking it through fully is what got me here. I get your point though and do it a bunch. Part of it is getting differing answers but I’m also learning what’s true for one is not the same for another, and I have to see what fits my situation and use it all.

 

[GD69]

I am obviously just trying to catch up on these and learn the ropes and was replying in wrong places (now deleted). I don’t really love these forums but this one is so informative. I just don’t want to stress people who disagree on things because what they’re doing I know works for them. I found a way for me, that I’m going to love doing, when it’s right and in proper containers for it. I do not need to PH, as explained above. I know it’s foreign to all growers for all of time. Haha. I get that. I just want you and others to know I do not ignore advice and blow it off. If I think it was told differently I’ll ask to discuss it. With this, everyone making, mixing, and using, says not to PH. I’m just going to stick with it until I see a reason not too. It’s soil, it’s nothing new and revolutionary, it’s just a different way of, mixing, and caring for it. I’m not going to force nutes in water. That will be fresh. They’ll take it when they want.

 

[GD69]

I'm late to this thread and luckily you've already been steered to Build-A-Soil's channel. Just make sure you don't add pH adjusters to the plants' water. pH Down will kill off the fungi and microbes that make living soil (or any organic method) work. I fill a few buckets ahead of watering and by the time I use it, the water has sat at least 24 hours with an airstone going in it to keep it from going funky.

I got tired of being looked at like I had 3 eyes and being told how dumb I was, so, I read the articles again to be sure I wasn’t crazy, and wrote an email to Build A Soil. They’re so great and helpful. I haven’t even ordered direct but used the Amazon site because I can’t get fed ex here (they’re going to work that out for me 👍).

The answer was a resounding, No! Do not use it. Anything over 50ppm of sodium is toxic in irrigation water and desired is 20ppm. If it was 49, I’d probably use it. I’m not at 70 now that they’ve advised. I’ll do rain buckets in spring and summer. Can’t here in NE now, or at least I wouldn’t know how to do it. I’ll have to work on that next. For now, my sister is 5mins away, and I’ll get a small boy carbon filter.

I could buy a product that will help. It’s $160 and by my math will treat 160-320 gallons of water. Yea, cheaper than bottles but no, not doing that.

 

[Cali]

I use the boogie blue plus+ Hose filter. Not sure what the Ppm is but my plants don’t seem to mind it. I have to say I used to add ascorbic acid which is only vitamin c powder to the water to neutralize the chloramines which don’t off has like chlorine Will over night. Now I just let the water jugs sit open over night to off gas chlorine’s and it works. You can also just use a handful of compost to neutralize the chloramines In the water and chlorine. I learned this from another grower here who posted a link to a YouTube channel called PlantAbundance he teaches all about organic gardening. I recommend anyone who likes gardening to watch his videos very informative.

 

[GD69]

I use the boogie blue plus+ Hose filter. Not sure what the Ppm is but my plants don’t seem to mind it. I have to say I used to add ascorbic acid which is only vitamin c powder to the water to neutralize the chloramines which don’t off has like chlorine Will over night. Now I just let the water jugs sit open over night to off gas chlorine’s and it works. You can also just use a handful of compost to neutralize the chloramines In the water and chlorine. I learned this from another grower here who posted a link to a YouTube channel called PlantAbundance he teaches all about organic gardening. I recommend anyone who likes gardening to watch his videos very informative.

Thank you, and I will look him up and watch them. The sodium content of my water is just too high. Otherwise I wouldn’t have to do anything but evaporate chlorine. The acid approach was mentioned by Build A Soil but the formula recommended (they are still in sales) is $157 for 2.5gal. One to two ounces per gallon of fed water. I figure tops it will treat 320 gallons, for $160. If there’s a cheaper formula or option I’ll hope to find it. I see what you said above about what the acids really are. For now, I’m just going to carbon filter chloramine from the water at my sisters place. It’s only 5 mins away. It’s not the solution but it will work for now. I can’t afford to pay for water like that. Many are going to respond to get an RO, and of course!! For my drinking water. I shouldn’t and won’t be using it in this application. I just bought a carbon filter too, but now I want yours instead. Haha. Looks like this is staying in the box until it goes back on Monday.

Thanks again!!