How I average a pound per plant

[JohnEmad]

planted 2 lebanese. Now both lebanese are males. On to my next attempts.

[Gracey]

Good to know about the seeds not causing too much stress to the other buds. Thanks. One of my others is a boggle gum from seed and its seed buds are at least twice as tall as all the others on the same plant. I'm jealous of the fat seeds buds.

[iwanttoknow]

eagerly waiting on the pdf version!

[Gracey]

Ah-ha, I used that article on schwaszzing as my defoliation guide at beginning of 12/12 and at week 3.I couldn't remember where I read it was ok to prune small undergrowth not getting light.

But here it is! "No more major defoliation after 3 weeks of 12/12! As the flowering stage progresses, you may still prune away any small growth underneath that doesn’t get light, as well as big fan leaves that block bud sites and can’t be tucked away."

Out of the 4 plants I have going this one I couldn't find the center because of the tangle of stem and leaf in its middle but finally got there a few days ago and I see more that needs to go on the others as well.

Thanks, that's literally exactly what I was looking for.

[BU2B]

Thanks for the post. And more than happy to answer your question. (PLEASE NOTE: This topic will be covered more extensively in the upcoming final PDF of this method.)
I find that the first three weeks of flowering gives you a lot of direction and idea of which undergrowth branches to cull. By that time I’ve pretty much determined which undergrowth branches to nourish and tend to and which to remove. This also falls right into line with the “Schwazzing” timetable mentioned in Post #60

Up until 6 weeks ago (to my shame for not reading the newsletter) I didn’t even know what “Schwazzing” was. Now I find I are one [or something like that]

I really doubt that 4 branches out of 40 will put much, if any strain on your yield. Yes growing seeds takes juice, though not necessarily a significant amount. For practical purposes it’s truly only hurting your flower yield if an ‘unplanned for amount’ of flower weight is replaced by seed weight.

[Gracey]

Thank you so much for the excellent lessons. I appreciate the 7+transition days from veg to bloom, I'm gonna be doing that. GWE is my go to site for all things grow so I figured the forum would be full of folks who knew their stuff.

I hope you don't mind if I bend your ear and ask a question. I should have taken much more off the middle of this plant a couple of weeks ago and I wonder if I'd do more harm than good if I did it now at week 6 day 4

The situation is, I moved my grow to bloom early to give them a chance to get through the rest of their life before the broad mites had a chance to come back and while they were lush and in good health. One of the monster cropped clones grew so wildly that between being a monster, LST, and losing tips from various blows it ended up looking a bit like yours. The base has 6 main lines and there must be 40 grow tips but it's small, it all fits in about a *24"*18" and 18" tall.
How far into bloom would you take out the lesser grow tips that aren't going to do much so that the larger 40 colas have a better chance of finishing off better?
I just realized, I bet the seeds my husband is growing on 3 or 4 of the stalks is taking a lot of energy from the rest of the buds.

Thoughts are welcome.

[BU2B]

I really haven't noticed any significant difference in whether branches are supported or not (unless they snap or fold.) However, I'm not sure that is actually saying much as I use yoyo's when the plants need them to keep branches from snapping or folding over. As I generally use support, I'm probably not a good one to ask as I really have nothing to compare it to. And... as you said, not willing to give it a try and see

[Cali]

Yup that is a really good job. Not sure how much this is true and not willing to test myself but I heard from a grower that if you let the cola flop to the side without support that cola thinks it’s dying and won’t grow anymore or the plant will set its energy on the others. Have you noticed that on a branch that you may have supported vs one that you didn’t? This was on an outdoor plant inside makes more sense because the light won’t hit it like one standing tall. Just wondering.

[MeEasy]

Nice job on the yoyos I was curious how you would hold up that many tops, that's where my frustration was and I never had that many tops, I have severe vertigo and well that should say it all lol

[BU2B]

About two weeks to go.

[bboyfromwayback]

Great tutorial. Very informative. I’ve been using Nebula’s manifold my last few grows and love it. It’s a head scratcher to me when I see GWE members still using a mainline but to each his or her own. I have 2 Bubba Kush and 2 Hindu Kush sprouts in CocoLoco just growing their 4th true nodes. I’m going to manifold one each and BU2B one each just to compare side by side. I left the PPP off bc I won’t have room to grow them out massively but I’ll post side by side pics along the way to compare. Next grow I’m only growing 2 plants using your method in AutoPots with a full 8wk veg. I’m not in hydro so I don’t expect a PPP however I’m averaging 5-6oz per plant using the mainline so I’ll be shooting for a 3/4PPP lol

I’m sure I’ll change my mind a few times before the next round begins but currently I’m leaning towards a Cali Dream and White Widow. Although we’re getting low on GG#4 which is sacrilege around here 😂

Anyways, thanks again for the insight into your method. I’ve been allowing one or two colas to outgrow the others then pull them to the center to fill that (donut hole) you mention earlier and appease my OCD. I like the idea of leaving the upward growth tips much better!

[SoOrbudgal]

Very good explanation calling it the " final push " i totally agree. Seeing this now in my GSC now they are clones from reveg moms. I've spent so long now on clones and not seeds it's very different to me so many different variance's on growth between clone and seed to me.

[BU2B]

oldjarhead100 I don’t think when you start counting is that big of a deal and really a matter of personal choice. But, like MeEasy I do keep note of the day of ‘the switch’ but I don’t start counting flowering time until I actually see flowers - which can be 3-7 days after you switch to 12/12.

[MeEasy]

I'm talking about ripeness and what seed companies list as flower times. You see all over to add two weeks to the flower times the breeders suggest but what it is, is that you don't start counting flower times until you have flowers. Defoliation timing doesn't change you time that by switch or at least I do

[oldjarhead100]

I always thought it started counting wise when you flip how else do you know when to do the 3 week defole,