New Grower Here!!!

[Mr.furley]

JohnEmad
The Autos have suprized me in the productivity class and has given me a new respect for this type of grow. It has been nice to freely check on the plants without a light schedule and the yield is looking bigger then I expected. I based the training on the same idea that i use on my photos in the past, I did notice substantial foilage and from my understanding this can be common under LED, the hesitation of messing with them at one point was interesting but with a little encouragement from Canuck147 I pretty much started taking Leaf as I normally would have with any other plant. In short I'm impressed.

[Obi-Wan]

Looking great!!! If it’s not too much to ask, a few shots of the structure under the trellis after your week 4 defoliation would be nice!!

[JohnEmad]

Wow they are a bunch of big flowers.
How do they compare so far to you other growing method?

[MagicMike66]

Those photos are going to be beasts 🤟🏻

[PLreef]

Damn Mr.furley looks like your growing yourself one hell of a cannabis jungle!! Well done my friend.

[Canuck147]

Best use of a net that I have seen on this forum in a while.

[420Cndee]

Wow I am amazed by you and other growers on here most of what you all do just goes over my head. I love looking at all your pics and reading your information.

[Mr.furley]

Photoperiod Plants got the flip last Friday, no thrip signs and no spraying for almost a week so 5 total treatments of spinosad over 10 days. Temperature and humidity are spot on and the rez with new nutrient is going smoothly.15 to 20% runoff, three feedings, 1 water only and Back to nutrient repeating process over 7 days.

The goal here is to fill the screen the first couple weeks of flower then let the plants go at a vertical stretch with a heavy defoliating around the 4th week of flower after that the main goal is a more hands off finish for flowering. Lights have been raised up and dimming is set at 75% today. I have a par Meter to play with tonight and I'm looking at comparability with my lux app meter...more later on this...

Enjoy

[growell]

nice looking plants mate always a pleasure

[Mr.furley]

Day 82 on the Autoflowers and if I do say so myself they are getting quite impressive. Phat buds are swelling right and left, the one plant is lagging but I expect it to follow suit of the taller plants just a week or so later. 80% on the lights and 3 plant are within 3 to 6 inchs, some light burn on the upper leaves but the buds show no real sigh of problems, there are a couple nutrient problems with the different phenotypes one plant is screaming for more nitrogen than the others, one is screaming for more potassium while the short one is perfectly happy, I am not worried about either of these as I'm late in flower. Temperatures have been real steady between 66 to 71 Fahrenheit relative humidity has been hanging around 45%, watering every 2 days when pots are light.

[growell]

nice one mr furley good as always and informative

[Mr.furley]

Photoperiod:

These plants are amazing! My calculated trimming has paid off, plants never missed a beat and just continued to grow, within four days I was trimming leaf, tucking and bending. Have seen minimal signs of thrip damage and not catching anything on the sticky traps. Sprayed spinosad generously till it drips off plants every other day, yesterday was treatment number 4. Going to pull the trigger on flowering in the next couple of days, this will give me two weeks to treat before I'm worried about budlets. The temperatures outside side will be 4°f as a low the next 2 days and my hope is this treatment is at the perfect time if they're coming in from outside the combination should knock them out for the rest of the winter.

The Reservoir is up and running and better than expected. Iv ran the fox farm line on manual for 2 weeks and had a lot of build-up from worm casting so I decided to switch to the canna-coco line to finish this grow. I'm now running a automatic drip system, it requires one day of cleaning, ph flush overnight, refilling and add nutes the next day and hands off till the next cleaning 7 days later. Got a new toy, A Blue lab ph monitor and auto dosing, ph is set to 6.2 and it stays at 6.2. All my water drifts up so it's only running ph down.





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[Mr.furley]

I'm going to split this thread into two separate post from now on. Last post had way too much information and pictures to load, post are limited to 15 pictures and I had to delete 4 of them.

Autoflower day 77.

My temperatures and humidity have been stellar if I do not read it off the master controller, everything seems real happy even though a couple of the plants have grown real close the light, there is some light burn but nothing I can do about it now. I've noticed some tip burn all over and I decided to cut back on nutrients to my old ways of alternating plain pH water and feeding every other time, plants are being watered every 48 hours. Looking at 2 to 6 weeks till harvest and each plant is looking like it will come down at a different time, the Breeders specified 1 pheno goes 120 days so I was expecting different looking plants the day I ordered seeds.

Enjoy.

[Mr.furley]

Oh the dreams of a new Grower, all the research, buying stuff within your budget, overly monthering the plants, for a Flawless grow with a great harvest. You Always get a suprizes and the curve balls is what make you a better grower, hands on education is the best in my book.
Well here is were i get to practice lessions learned, some of you mofos been getting thrips and I think you decided to send them my way, ugh. Very sad yesterday to find thrip damage as I was going to flip the lights. it is only visible in the photoperiod room as of now and I think I have caught it quick, from my experience I'm looking at 14 to 21 days they've been in there. I will cover my eradication strategy below but for now lets talk Autos.

Temperature and humidity in both rooms have been 69f /75f, 45%rh day and night no matter the temperatures outside and its going to be 23f tonight. I have one oil heater in each room running on low at half setting, lights are on 24/7 and dim down to 50% in one room and 80% in the other. I couldnt ask for a better environment so the new fan did the trick.
According to my Infinity controllers that is, but the humidity monitor on The Growers Choice does not Jive with two other units and I am concerned about which one is right, the infinity controller and my $20 portable one for the most part match, the Master controller is 15% diffent with the probes hanging side by side.



All the autos are at different stages of flower, two have the buds fattening up and look impressive, one has stop stretching or maybe it got the hint from the super cropping, lol. Shes developing nicely just a little slower, and one is just setting buddies. Still need to remove leafs on the plant that are in early bud development but going to wait just a bit longer giving them a chance to form. I do have a litte light burn, I have let a coulpe of the plants grow within 3" right under the diode bar, Im surprised at how close they can get.



Water every two day 1.25 gal when pots are light when lifted. Three feeds and then a sladgehammer flush.

I got Thrips last year and it was about this time of year(make sense! I have a warm comfortable environment when it's getting cold outside)that I started questioning weird growth and findings but not a bug to be found until January. I just let it go to early last year and by the time i had conformation it was to late, with a Perpetual grow and not sparying flowering plants there is no point in treating the problem only managing it.
This time Im hoping thing turn out better as I dont want to re-live the nightmare of ugly plant all season again, you will get to harvest with thrips just not the best it could have been. I have found one spot on three leaves on one plant only, its a salt looking, dried up saliva looking deal that is from the thrips sucking chlorophyll from the leaf.

steps:
1) cut the photoperiod plants back, Less places to hide and easier to treat most effectively, drop the temperature to slow the bug down. Autos just get lady bugs right now.
2) blue sticky traps to excess in photo room.
3) after a 24hr recovery from the butchering I started spraying the photos today with spinosad and will continue at every two days to four day for the next 14 days
4) release ladybugs in the photo room after spinosad application have ceased.
5) treat auto room and mother plans after auto harvest.







Thrips first appeared on the Grape Ape so most likely will dispose of the Clones, Showing me bugs like it over others plant I have.

Really sad I had to cut my plants back I was ready to flower some nice looking, health plants, I spent four hours trimming my plants meticulously looking at how I was going to train them after this. In the end all grows have problems some are larger than others and this is just a setback for me that is better to deal with now then later. remember folks it's not winning the race, it's finishing it strong.

till next week.

[Mr.furley]

Thank you Obi-Wan glad to have you along.