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**ellz** · 08-05-2017, 09:23 PM

For my next reservoir, I am thinking about going with a Rubbermaid Brute 20-gallon tote. Here is a webstore with a bunch of pictures (but likely not where I will order it from): https://www.webstaurantstore.com/rub...RoC4mQQAvD_BwE

As I look through the pictures, the one that stands out the most to me is the one of the person holding a watermelon at the top of the container.

That really shows me the size of the container itself and makes me think it would be better to only do two plants in that container, side by side, centered under the light. I could go with larger net pots and I would put a string trellis above them so I could walk the plants out from the center. If you figure that watermelon as one root ball, that would give two plants a lot of room to get big! Otherwise, I could try doing as many as four and just grow them a bit smaller but in all honesty, if the root ball is being represented by the melon, it looks like four could work out without too much clutter below. I would likely only fill them with 10 gallons of water so there would be a decent air space above the water. As for the fan coolers I made, they would be left out of this design and replaced by a reservoir cooler I will also be building. Just stuff to think about but luckily I have time to think and prepare while this batch is finishing up!

**Daskahn** · 08-06-2017, 04:16 PM

Sorry to hear that ellz I truelly am going to miss you.. I'll probably still follow along assuming your not referring to me lol

**Californiakid** · 08-06-2017, 04:59 PM

Dude I'm glad you are sticking around. I like what you post. Gonna be a few jerks at every party just ignore 'em.
Cheers

**alltatup** · 08-06-2017, 05:24 PM

ellz You are a totally valuable member of this forum, dont even think of leaving! You cant take personalities personally on a forum!! Folks cant help the way they are if they dont recognize there is a problem. just block em!!!

**ellz** · 08-06-2017, 08:15 PM

08/06/2017:

07:00PM: Okay so troll problem resolved. The person has now been blocked since they continued on even after I tried to just agree to disagree. Guess some people just can't help but be dicks. Anyway, back to my plants...WOW! They are looking amazing! I opened the cabinet today and was almost blown away at how big they got from just yesterday! I am definitely starting them flowering on Monday. The speed they are growing, I feel that would be best. I poured the leftover pHed HydroGuard water from the other day in both reservoirs. Doing a nutrient change tomorrow, along with a bulb change and I am changing my light schedule to turn the light ON at 6PM and OFF at 6AM. I was going to do 9-9 but I prefer not working on the plants when it is dark out because of the bugs. This way, I will have a couple of hours of daylight each day to mess with the plants and not have to worry about the bugs. I have attached photos below but it is almost hard to tell what plant is what. They look a lot alike even though there are different strains on each side!

Side Note: I definitely want to make some changes on my next reservoir! For starters, I am only growing two plants at a time next time. The way these things have spread out tells me it would be far easier to maintain two plants versus four. I could easily let them veg a little longer and grow two plants out just as big as the four growing now...especially with the addition of the string trellis I will be adding. Also, I will be adding a much needed fill port for my reservoir changes! I will be using a 4" PVC cleanout pipe end and cap seen here. This will allow me to fill my reservoir without opening the lid! I also plan on installing a custom built check level gauge on the side of the reservoir using blue tubing and a bulkhead and elbow inserted in the bottom of the reservoir. This will allow me to keep a constant eye on my fluid levels easily and also without opening the top. Finally, I plan on either adding in a drain line from the water pump to drain the tank or leaving the suction head in my reservoir permanently with a plastic hose adapter and some garden hose and have a port up top to hook into to drain. I can monitor the level with the check valve so again, I wouldn't have to open the lid! Having a string trellis system above the plants, I don't want to have to ever need to open the lid as it would be very difficult and could damage the plants.

**ellz** · 08-07-2017, 12:52 AM

alltatup Here is a prototype of how it would look. This was just a rough sketch I put together. The two black circles would be the net pots and the white part is the fill port. The cap is not on there, I just drew it like it would be if it were open...

**ellz** · 08-07-2017, 07:53 PM

END OF VEGETATIVE STAGE! Total vegetative stage time: 34 days from seed (07/05/2017 to 08/07/2017)

08/07/2017:

06:15PM: After swapping my light to the HPS bulb, I drained both reservoirs and filled them with the Week 5 batch of nutrients from my feed chart. The plants basically grew so much last night that it cut the distance between the light in half overnight!! I moved the light up a bit higher since I swapped to the HPS bulb. Once the light came on, I was able to see that the HPS bulb puts out a ton more light than the MH one did! I tested the lux at the top of my plant and it was over 90k even after moving my fixture up due to the previous night's growth so I moved the light fixture up about 2/3's of the way up and retested it and the highest reading was back down to 85k which is the max amount I want (also the most the plant can absorb). I will need to keep an eye on it once the stretch happens. With the reflective wall covering, the reading down at the bottom of the plant is still as high as 45k and that is under the shade of other leaves! That reflective film I bought is wonderful at bouncing the light! Below are the photos of the plants on their very first day in the flowering cycle! Thanks for reading.

10:20PM: I decided to raise my light up a few more clicks due to the levels of light reaching the leaves. Prior to moving the light this time, my highest lux reading was about 85k which is max for cannabis. After moving it, my highest reading was about 73k which is much better and as fast as they are growing I will likely have to adjust again soon!

**Daskahn** · 08-07-2017, 08:50 PM

Very nice..
few questions where are your trunks lol?
also curious to know what method of defoliation your gonna use if any?

**Daskahn** · 08-08-2017, 02:55 AM

I know yourll read it somewhere but basically defoliating allows light to lower "bud" sites increasing yield.. it also tricks the plant into putting more energy into your buds instead of leaves but yourll read that lol

i just want you to sing lollipop lollipop oh lolli lollipop while you do it lol it's stuck in my head

**ellz** · 08-08-2017, 10:24 PM

08/08/2017:

08:00PM: Checked on the plants after I got home from kayaking and they are still going strong! I made sure the light wasn't too strong on them and it is still maxing out around 76k on the lux meter. The lower end is around 45k so that is good as well. I posted some photos below of how they look on day 2 of flowering (day 36 from seed). Still not sure about the sex. Not seeing any indicators just yet. I hope to by the end of the week. I also plan on checking the reservoir tomorrow because they will likely be down about 2 gallons each. Will update the post then. Thanks for reading!

**ellz** · 08-09-2017, 08:40 PM

08/09/2017:

06:30PM: Checked on the plants today and they are growing strong! I had to add 2 full gallons per reservoir or pHed, HydroGuard water. I pHed the water to ~6.3 because the reservoir was already around 5.9 and I like to have the pH go up and down so that all the nutrients get absorbed. I actually ended up adding 2.5 gallons to each one since there was room for more water in the res. Still no indication on sex yet. I guess they will let me know when they are ready. I decided to defoliate the plants a bit today since they were getting very bushy. I only removed the large fan leaves and only in places where there was excess shade from them. On some of the plants, I only removed one fan leave instead of both due to the fact that the second one wasn't really blocking anything. I ended up pulling off about a half-gallon ziploc bag's worth of leaves but the plants are still very full...just a bit more open. I have attached photos of both groups of plants below, as well as before and after of the defoliating. Thanks for reading!

**ellz** · 08-10-2017, 09:49 PM

08/10/2017:

06:30PM: Checked on the plants today and I believe I have at least one female so far! YAY! The other 3 aren't showing sex yet but I noticed on one of the White Poison seeing some tiny little pre-flowers starting on one branch and they look female. I have attached a photo below of the plants today and that one close up but it is hard to see the preflowers in the photo. I tried to mark them as best I could so they are a bit easier to spot. I can tell you this much, the smell coming out of that cabinet is very promising! I will likely need to top off the reservoir again tomorrow with another 2 gallons or so each. I will update the thread then. Thanks for reading!

**ellz** · 08-11-2017, 08:36 PM

08/11/2017:

06:30PM: I checked on the plants again today and I am now seeing signs of females on at least 3 of the plants (one Rug Burn OG and 2 White Poison). All four have crossed stipules and 3 of the four are starting to show the right shape preflowers (still no pistils yet) so fingers crossed! Still hoping to know the final sex by the end of the weekend. As for the reservoirs, both are down about 2 gallons each so I am making up some pHed, HydroGuard water to pour in them later. Will likely over fill them again and hope they last through the nutrient change on Monday. The roots are looking strong down below...very large root balls and very white and healthy! Temps are still staying in the low 70s in the reservoir and only up to the mid 80s in the foliage area. Humidity in the cabinet is around 48% but I have the swamp cooler's fan on only so there is no extra water being put into the atmosphere. I sometimes turn on the water just to bring up the humidity to around 60% since they haven't started budding just yet. Once I see buds forming, however, I will likely keep the humidity down around 50% or so. Pictures of day 39 are below, along with 3 photos of the preflowers. Thanks for reading!

08:45PM: Added 2 gallons of pHed, HydroGuard water to each reservoir. They plants are drinking about a gallon per day so that is good! I also moved the light up four clicks on each side (about an inch or so) because the top of the canopy was getting over 85k again! The center is the hot spot so I monitor that now every couple of days to see if I need to raise the light. After raising the light this time, the max reading was around 84k but only in one specific spot. The rest are back down to around 76k or so.

**Sheesh** · 08-11-2017, 08:49 PM

Wow, you must be able to watch the grow! I'm on my first ever coco run, one week since I flipped to 12/12. Last night I checked them at lights on and I swear they had grown an inch after 3 hours. It's something to see when this great plant is growing vigorously. Anyhow, looking real promising on the sex. Nice crossed stipules!

**ellz** · 08-13-2017, 08:04 PM

08/13/2017:

06:30PM: Wanted to condense the weekend posts into one since not much went on with the plants the past two days. They are still growing along nicely, but it looks like I may have a boy in the mix!! One of the Rug Burn OG plants looks like it may be forming pollen sacs and not buds. Still just a bit too early to tell since the preflowers are still very small but I posted some photos below showing some closeups of the plants where sex was starting to show. I also have included a picture of the roots under each plant as they sit today, along with a photo of both groups of plants yesterday and today. They are getting so large that individual reservoir photos are somewhat redundant so I will stop posting those since the group shot shows both plants nicely. Thank you for reading and I will update tomorrow after my water change!

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