Newbie looking for assurance

[tyler_ hobbyist]

Or unless u can find out the brand and model. Or if the cord/light has a sticker saying volts and amps. How u find watts is multiply volts by amps fo for example 125volts multiply by 2.5amps is 312.5watts. That would be ur true watts because that's the power curently going thro.

[Rockett1973]

911 guys help me out, what is going on? So yesterday, we got the exhaust fan hooked up, and it creates a little negative pressure inside the tent. The plants soil felt a little dry so I watered the normal amount. The only things that have changed are I added the exhaust fan another light panel, and another small fan to circulate air. You can see temps in the thermo pic. You can see my setup in the other pic, and now you can see my plants are very droopy. I am very concerned guys what do I do??

[tyler_ hobbyist]

It's not wind burn and if u didn't change nutes it's not N toxic so my guess would be they just dryed up to much inbetween waterings. Fans speed up the time the water gets dryed up in soil as well. Future just dnt let em dry up so much. As a plant grows it needs more liquid each day but within a week u wount notice much difference but as time go's on u will notice ur plants need more liquid more often. That's most likely all it is. If u can start feeding b vitamins and that will help her bounce back quicker but it will still take atleast 3days

[Rockett1973]

Thanks for the info boss

[berrypilot]

🌱 How are they doing now? 🌱

[Rockett1973]

Much much better. I think it was combo underwater, and then overwater to compensate, and it just took some time for them to regulate. I'll put a couple pics in a few minutes

[Rockett1973]

So I don't think I was supposed to, but since they were down I went ahead and topped them, then they perked back up so I did some LST on them. The smallest one was my runt, and it looks different than the rest of them, not sure about it🤔. The widest one got topped pretty far down because it was growing WAY faster than all of them. So my question is, when should I switch to flower? I'm just not sure how long I want to wait because I don't want them getting to tall and close to my LED lights.

[berrypilot]

🌱 I think they look great! In general you want to switch them to flowering when they're about half the final desired size, since they on average about double in height after the switch to 12/12 (some strains more than others, watch out for that tall plant because I've found tall ones in veg tend to stretch the most after the switch to the flowering stage)! As long as you bend it over and tie it down if it gets taller than the rest, you should be good

The main idea is to try to keep your canopy as flat and wide (like a table) as possible. That way you have as many bud sites as possible, and they're all close to the grow light at the same time. You will get the best yields if you fill the entire grow space, so you use all the light (light is like food for your buds). Generally you try to spread out your plants as much as possible in the vegetative stage and for the first part of the flowering stage as they keep growing bigger/taller. After about 6 weeks they stop getting bigger and then you have a waiting period while the buds are filling out and maturing. More about the flowering stage here if you're interested: http://www.growweedeasy.com/cannabis-flowering-stage 🌱

[Rockett1973]

Thanks for the advice

[Rockett1973]

New question guys, the GWE site says that I should be able to see pre flowers by week 6, I'm 3 days from that where should I look, I haven't seen any signs at all just wondering if I can get a jump on determination of gender so I at least know which ones to watch

[Aloner]

I noticed them near the top of the plant first.
Pics on GWE

[tyler_ hobbyist]

It's your lights!!!!! Lights are ur number one reason for flowering if your lights arnt strong enough ur growth is slowed and preflower/flower is slowed 6weeks for preflower is an average off normal light that about 90,000lumens or 60moles per day aprox.

[tyler_ hobbyist]

I also have the same problem because I have 2plants under a 350w true led at 6inchs and they are just starting to flower where the same age of my other plants are under 1000w hps and there half way done flower already (p.s co2 is also added to my hps set up so that helps as well)

[D.A.A.S.69]

Tyler I'm not trying to sound like a smart ass, but try moving your 350watt led up to where everyone else puts theirs I don't know 18 to 22 inches above. If it doesn't work there you got a bad light.

[tyler_ hobbyist]

I do under stand the consept of leds and that ALL LEDS are made differently I am trying to create very small node distances and that's why my light is so close and even with the intensity it doesn't stress my plant and that's the sweet spot. I think me and you have a lot of differences on growing and you may have a great skill level but iv also been growing for a while. I dnt mean to start a fight I'm just stating that everytime I try to give someone some info of my personal exsperince you all ways cut them down on numerous times. Please respect that I'm not an idiot and ill do the same. I'm not here to fight with anyone I am here to learn and teach.

[D.A.A.S.69]

Tyler I'm not hear to fight either and I'm the last one to cut somebody down , never done that , it's just you always mention how close your lights are and always talking about co2 and all i do is point out what Nebula says about light distances and co2 ,there is a little difference between your views and Nebulas on those 2 subjects.

[tyler_ hobbyist]

For one all canabis plants need co2 to breath when levels go below 200ppm canabis stops growing and at 1500ppm is the max of optimum levels the plant wount use 1500ppm unless light and temp is on the higher scale. This is a scientific fact that canabis needs co2 to live and adding extra co2 will only help if u have to much light or heat even if you plant doesn't use the full co2 because of light of heat factors under 1500ppm will not hurt you plant so there's no reason u can not add it and just incase u have a light or heat issue your already covered without stressing ur plant and slowing growth this is a fact that has been studyed by qualifyed professionals. Canabis needs co2 for photosynthesis and in a sealed room ur co2 can be all used up unless u have gd airflow. But adding co2 upto 1500ppm will not hurt your plant. You can reserch this there has been a lot of full studys from university. And distance of LED light varies for company to company NO LED from different company's are made the same so to tell someone they have to have there light at 18-22inchs is inaccurate. Unless you know the true par value you can't give a distance. This is a fact. People can give general guidlines but nothing is accurate unless you know the facts of the light.

[tyler_ hobbyist]

If I am wrong show me scientific proof of my mistakes.

[D.A.A.S.69]

I know led lights are all different, all I'm saying is you are the only one that I have ever heard of putting it 6 inches away ,they may be some more though, but all the information I see on GWE and other places say to keep them alot higher than that ,all I'm trying to do is keep a NEW grower from messing their plants up. And about co2 i never claimed to be an expert like you, i was just repeating what i read Nebula say about co2, that it wasn't worth it unless you had more light than you could use. And I believe Nebula, no disrespect and not you. We are all supposed to be helping each other ,and especially new growers get involved in this great hobby of growing weed easy an not growing weed confused

[Aloner]

No need for anyone to get bent out of shape here. I think that -- and this is speaking as a newbie myself -- some of these concepts (adding CO2, for example) needlessly complicate things for someone just starting out. Better to work on shepherding a healthy plant through to harvest and then work on increasing yields by tweaking things once one has real practical growing experience. And if keeping your LED that close works for you, that's great! But I see post after post where the grower's problem turns out to be their powerful lights were too close. (I have no control over the distance of my light source lol!)

Growers love from the heart, guys!