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What was your biggest plant training mistake?

NebulaHaze

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When it comes to plant training, is there anything you did that you regret? Things like...
  • Not training
  • Training/topping too early or too much
  • Screen of Green gone wrong
  • Plants stayed too small or got too big
  • Any other type of plant training problems!
I'd love to hear everyone's personal experiences :) I'm trying to put together an article and want to make sure I cover the most common mistakes!
 
My biggest plant training mistake was by trying to LST a white widow auto too early. This plant was about 8 inches tall and 5th node. Tied it down for one day when I realized it was mostly a sativa plant and was going to grow much taller. 5 weeks old now and 46 inches tall, very lanky.
I also had 6 other plants trying to keep the canopy to the same height, so just doing one plant would have been ludicrous. All or none.
 
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Mine was Lst too early also. I got 18 grams dry, autoberry. Was like a head of Cauliflower.
 

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I have not 'trained' any of my plants (first attempt at growing) but I've got a list of mistakes I've made already. My plants (at 9 weeks from seed) SEEM to be doing very well but they also seem to be much shorter than others on the forum (about 2 feet tall now). I have done some major defoliation about 3-4 times, usually 10-14 days apart, and the plants have rebounded vigorously each time, but I'm sure the plants were stressed and possibly stunted as well. I defoliated to provide more light to node sites and to encourage more bud locations, it seems to have worked well. I 'topped' all plants at about 4-5 weeks and that worked out well. I'm thinking now that the plants may be 'root bound' in 5-gal smart pots and 3-gal plastic pots. I'm growing in soil (50/50 happy frog/organic, 10% pearlite) and would do so again, but I think I need more pearlite to keep the soil from compacting, seemingly a serious problem right now. I'm considering trying to loosen the soil somehow but don't want to damage the root system. Loosening the soil would also allow more efficient watering IMO, as the water would get into all parts of the soil bucket. I'm not complaining B/C I'm extremely excited by what I've achieved so far, and truly believe I'll be harvesting some fabulous home-grown flowers soon. I'm growing mostly sativas along with a couple of mostly indicas. Planning to flip to flower at 10 weeks or so, just want a little more height from these girls before that. I actually didn't need to 'train' for height (my tent is 7ft tall at least) and my light footprint seems adequate. I would consider jumping from 600W MH/HPS to 1000W MH/HPS though.
 
Early in my experience I liked the idea of FIM. 4 collas opposed to 2 from topping-a no brainer. However-my FIM was not as successful as I wished over several grows so I went to topping.
2, 4, 6 , 8 :)
 
I know it's been a while since you posted pictures, but your plants looked absolutely outstanding in the pictures you've posted so far! One thing to keep in mind as far as size is plants tend to grow more slowly in soil (at least vegetatively) than they do coco or hydro (which many people on the forum are using).

Just curious, are you happier with the 3-gallon hard side containers or the 5-gallon smart pots? Or does it seem about the same? Can't wait to see more pictures of your garden as it develops!
 
Wow, that is a crazy tall plant at such a young age! When I first started growing I had a "Grand Daddy Purple" plant that grew the same way. It got HUGE overnight, and towered over the other plants :)
 
growgreenjr if you want to de-compact your soil you can get a gardening hand tool that is shaped like a snake's tongue that is made for aerating the soil and for aiding transplanting. if you insert it gently in the compacted soil and wiggle it slightly you can feel the roots--that is, don't just "stab" the soil indiscriminately--and then pull up gently/slightly or down on the handle and you thereby aerate the soil with little to no disruption of the root system.
 
Until last year I used to grow outdoors and didn't trained at all. Thing that I regret now. But indoors last time my grand daddy grew too tall so my only regret is waiting too long before flowering.
 
Biggest mistake, not training at all. Plants had that classic Christmas tree shape. I'm not ready to top and tie down. No hesitation after reading and viewing pictures from so many great successful growers.
 
When i started my 1st grow, 5 months ago, i was thinking in Nebula's manifolding, Super cropping and defoliation. Manifolding was extremely easy to follow(although i had 2-3 small mistake). After next training done, super cropping, i thought i killed them completely but less than a week later they were completely heathly to me( i lost 1 cola of 28 ones).


but defoliation...

Place me in a circle you want which radius is a half of earth's radius (6400Km) and I'm must stupid guy on the circle for sure.

After reading Nebula's defoliation article more than ten times i started to defoliate. "Well, What should i take? Pre-flowering pistil are there and main cola is here" i was thinking. Ok i take these.

2 weeks later after buds started to form i realized I'm stupid by such a wrong defoliation. I should not have cut those growth tips. Who had told me to cut growth tips! I counted the "growth tip" times on Nebula's defoliation article. She had never used "growth tip" in her article even once. I check her article twice and number of "growth tip" still were ZERO.


less than 10" buds on each 28 main colas. 255watt LED 600watt HPS, 2 plants. 270 gr + 123 gr is what i gained from heavily trimed buds. They are at the end of week 2 of curing now. Don't know how much negative effect it had but i had 6-8 hour power during 10 day to last week of flowering.
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Excellent point about the growth rate between hydro and soil; I had not thought of that. I love the smart pots; really thought 5 gallon would be plenty but maybe a little bigger would really help. Smart pots over hard side plastic any day. Moto, I'm going to try the method of soil de-compaction you described; thanks for the tip!
 
Make some room, Lammygod... I'm right there with you! Tried defoliating for the first time last grow. Must have defoliated 5 or 6 times and she bounced back each time with gusto. I was a little uneasy defoliating late in flower as I had read conflicting advice but plant was sooooo bushy I felt I had to to help with air and light, so I dove in... After a while I noticed my hands were sooooo sticky, and only then did it hit me..... how many trichomes had I just rubbed off with my hands getting to fan leaves!!!!! DUH!!
 
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Growing photos I lollipoped a Super Skunk too aggressively but it did make for very fat buds on the tops.

In my recent adventures growing autos I've really mucked it up. Trying to push the schedule on the autos I topped too early and ended up with a split stem. A week later I snapped one of my main stems completely off trying to pin my plant down a la Green75 and Rockman.
 

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