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SOIL What Nutrients Should I Buy For My Next Soil Grow And How often should I apply them?

Stahlherz420

Stahlherz420

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So basically my question is, can anyone recommend me a good series of nutrients and a feeding schedule for them to use with Fox Farm Ocean Forest Soil? This is assuming I go for a 3 week seedling stage, an 8 week veg stage (or as long as I see fit), and then 9 weeks to flower for the Durban Poison, 10 weeks to flower for the Girl Scout Cookies.

What would you recommend I feed both of them during these 21 weeks? I'm kind of confused on the whole nutrient thing, but each grow I've had my plants seem to have problems with them and there's no way around it, but if I can mark it all on a calendar it'll be easy for me to follow.

I plan on growing two plants in 5 gallon fabric pots, using nothing but fox farm ocean forest soil, store bought distilled water, mylar on the walls, and my light, a Viparspectra 450W LED (was about 139$).

The nutrients I bought for my last grow are Sensi Cal Mag Xtra and Dyna Gro Foliage Pro, both of which I still have plenty of. I would fill a plastic syringe with a few milliters of whichever I felt I needed, and put that in the gallon of water, and water my plant with it. Is that the correct way to administer nutrients? Even when I did so, my leaves still had a few color issues, but they weren't as bad as my last grow attempt.

I heard you don't need to use any nutrients for the first 2 weeks when growing in FFOF because it's a very rich soil, is that true?

Sorry I have so many questions. I appreciate all of you who take your time to help beginners like me!
 
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I use DynaGro as well, I feed at 6mls per gallon to reach an EC/PPM of 1.4/700 with my tap water. I’m not 100% sure what you mean by a few milliliters but I can say that I don’t need any extra Cal/Mag at my dosage. I’d recommend picking up DynaGro’s Bloom formula for flower at the same dosage. Their ProteKt is nice as well but if your in soil the added silica isn’t necessary.
 
I have never used nutrients using FF Ocean Forest within the first 3 weeks and now, since I am using only living soil, I don’t use nutrients at all. However, all of the seedlings were popped in water, then paper towel, then solo cups with FFOF for 3 weeks under CFL’s and then moved to the super soil coco loco mix......so it really has not needed any nutrients in either method. If you continue the grow using FFOF, read up on using lower ratios of nutrients after those first several weeks when you start to add nutes.
 
I do FFOF and FFHF. Started with their solubles trio and had good results. Switched to the liquid trio Big Bloom, Grow Big, and Tiger Bloom and yields increased big time. I use half the recommended dosage and don't start feeding for a few weeks after putting clones in dirt and under lights. Some strains can take more nutes than others. Also been trying out Fish Shit for some extra N.
 
So you’re saying I should feed the dyna grow I have now while it’s in veg, and then get the Dynagro Bloom before switching to flower?

How often do you feed the 6 mls per gallon?
 
I was thinking about picking up some living soil but it’s a bit expensive. And I read somewhere you shouldn’t use any nutes within the first 2 weeks of planting in FFOF because it’s already a very rich soil, so I wasn’t gonna do that.
 
Are you referring to the feeding chart Fox Farm has on their website? Because it seems like it’s giving a lot of nutrients to an already incredibly rich soil, even at a large dosage. My plants aren’t outdoor, they’re indoor and they each have their own pot. 6 teaspoons per gallon on a plant’s first week of life in an already incredibly hot soil just seems like a crazy amount to me.

Edit: reread your comment, saw you said ignore the feeding chart for the first few weeks. I will be starting from seed since I don’t have clones unfortunately.
 
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Stahlherz420 consider the cost of supplemental nutrients and other supplies to see if the margin is close enough for you to consider. One more consideration is the “purity” of the crop. No flushing is needed since your not loading up the soil or plant with fertilizer salts... you have great healthful benefits in juicing fan leaves. Avoiding plants that have been grown with fertilizers provides the cleanest mixes by juicing the leaves with other juices like apple,lemon, orange, carrot. I am not one of those juice nuts that claim this that or the other by drinking green juice. However, that combo in the previous sentence tastes terrific. Like a bright start to a otherwise standard morning. Should’ t juice chemically grown leaves , They go directly into you system as less than desirable.

The smoke or concentrate you make from bud will taste better and Not have a harsh kickback. When you water, no time mixing combinations of nutrients just fill a vessel with water and wet the plants roots.

I did the mad scientist grows where you’re measuring ml’s from quart bottles to add into containers and then ration it out to the plants... now, it’s just a bucket of room temperature water
 
The soil has everything it needs for the first 3-4 weeks so you should be ok with water only. Then you’ll want to feed the DG Foliage Pro for the remainder of Veg. I would start with every other watering with nutrients and work your way up to every watering with nutrients by the time you switch to flower at which point you would switch to the DG Bloom formula.
 
I knew about having to flush sometimes or else excess fertilizer could get in the bud. I would love to do a plain water grow with just FFOF, but each of my grows my plants have developed weird colorations akin to deficiencies, and I worry I can’t produce the best bud that way.
 
Obi-Wan so you suggest maybe watering twice a week after 4 weeks of only watering, but one of those waterings has just 6ml of the dynagro foliage pro, and then when I’m ready to go to flower I’ll buy the dynagro bloom and do the same thing? Thanks. That seems to be the simplest answer. I’ve heard great things about fox farm but they have so many different products it’s confusing. If I can limit it to just 2 and one is what I already have then that’ll be great.
 
Stahlherz420 you can’t do it that way or you WILL show deficiency... living soil works differently that is why you can use plain water. The roots reach into the bio-active mix and utilize the compounds it needs during the growing cycle.

Using the trio they sell or almost any for that matter will introduce chemical salts to the plant which can make them grow but also result in a plant that does not possess the organic qualities of natural growth. At the end of the plants cycle of growth , those salts need to be flushed out of the soil and plant to minimize harshness from those fertilizers
 
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No. There is a well written process in the webpages of each producer ...read it. The transplant occurs at about the 3 week mark Into the living soil mix.
 
I was thinking about my next grow (Soil) and wondering whether to stick with Dyna-Gro or not. I have Grow & Bloom. I saw that Obi-Wan uses Dyna-Gro at a rate of 6mls per gallon every other watering. The bottles say ¼ - ½ tsp per gallon every time you water. 6mls = 1.2 tsp so your going pretty heavy, right? Just wanna make sure I got this right…thanks!
 
Cheesy The 1/4-1/2 tsp. per gallon would be recommended if you were watering with nutrients at every watering. I follow the Hydroponic instructions at a little less than 1/2 strength.
 
Obi-Wan Thanks for the response. I'm planning on using FFOF soil + 30% perlite and Dyna-Gro Grow & Bloom. Do you think 3 ml per gallon every time would work?
 
Cheesy It seems reasonable to me, but in the end the plants will tell if it’s too much or not enough. I do suggest water only every 3rd or 4th watering just to prevent lock out.
 
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