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The Shady Side of Legal Cannabis?

@alltatup

do you have a list of those types of companies? willing to share? or a link?

looking at http://www.korlor420.com now

I will be starting Oil Extractions in the next couple of months, and these bags look perfect. TY
sounds like the kind of business, I would rather support with my $$
 
ZigZag thanks again. We haven't been to any conferences yet, but do plan on getting to some this year. I'm really only about 6 weeks into full operational mode so still very new. Planning has been happening for many months, but it took a while to get the ball rolling down the hill. There are some nascent organizations trying to coalesce here in Oklahoma. We haven't joined one yet as I want to wait and see which bubbles to the top before jumping in, but we will be very active participants. EDIT: I'm not so much concerned with competition with the Black Market as I am with safety FROM the black market. The guy I met the other day who came from the black market side and is now a licensed grower tried very hard to put the fear of god into me.
 
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Rwise see my comments above regarding federal legalization. I don't anticipate the legalization of hemp to impact the medical cannabis market very much, but federal legalization is lurking in the wings and that will change the whole ball of wax.
 
LurkingInTheGrass I'm learning as I go. For example, the supercloset grow box I bought a couple of years ago was a total piece of shit and a waste of a thousand bucks: supercloset.com I should have known it wouldn't be good when I talked to the guy on the phone that I knew waaaay more about growing cannabis than he did. He sounded like a wind up doll saying all the platitudes we already know. But they put their own ad up in High Times saying how great they were, and I didn't realize that it wasn't a High Times review: it was just grab the money and let them toot their own horn. So I avoid High Times now.

I recently had a weird experience talking to the guy in charge of 02grow ("nanobubble technology") who tried to pressure me to buy now before the prices went up in 2019. Of course, this convinced me not to think about the product anymore. A real sleazoid.

Businesses I trust:
ardentcannabis.com
https://www.omega.com/pptst/PHA4_7_10.html?bt=cart This is where I buy my pH calibration solution by the gallon: much cheaper and a high quality product.
http://www.extractcraft.com
Future Harvest nutrients

Online sources of information: in the past two years, they have grown like a bad case of root rot. I don't trust a lot of them, like I avoid Leafly altogether, as well as websites with tons of pop up adds, bells and whistles. Google can go fk itself. Sites I like and have learned a lot from:

bigbudsmag.com
https://www.projectcbd.org
wakeandbake.com This woman taught me all I know about tinctures.
https://extractcrafter.com Ichiban taught me all I know about making concentrates.
https://cannasos.com/strains The place I usually go to read about strains; it's better than most about telling you where the strains come from geographically.
http://profofpot.com This guy knows his stuff, if you have the scientific interests.
 
Wow - thank you very much, Atu
Much linkages to check out 😁

@9fingerleafs
I keep trying to figure that one out 😁 - always end up in a cool rabbit hole though
 
I agree with seraphim_ I don't think the market for hemp will impact the market for medical. Unless you include THC free CBD products. But even then a commercial grower i know who has been doing medical for almost 12 years and recreational for about the last three are now growing hemp as well. They specialize in High CBD strains_ many in the 5-15% range and THC in the 5-20% range. These crops are sold as flower to dispensaries and to others in bulk who make extracts, edibles and topicals for retail sale. These CBD/THC cannabis strains are preferred by producers that care because they have terpene profiles that hemp can't provide. The THC also works with the CBD to "complete" it.
Their hemp is going to go to a buyer who is going to use it to make CBD only products and then get this_clothing!
I have no idea whats happening in Oklahoma with hemp but in Oregon hemp fields don't need to be enclosed, fenced and monitored with security cameras. Just the crops that contain THC need to be tossed off to public access.
Once the huge commercial hemp farms in South America and Canada get into full production then I wouldn't want to be trying to make a go at the unregulated CBD only market_ the competition will be overwhelming.
Sticking to the THC/CBD strains will be a safer bet !
 
alltatup_ thanks for those links, every little bit helps for sure. Last winter we were talking about making extracts using high proof alcohol and then evaporation...
it made a pretty potent concentrate. From one of your links above it looks like you/ve been checking out more options and I was wondering what you thought.
I'm still loving my Ardent for prepping the dry ice hash I've been using for edibles....I was thinking of making some edibles with rosin but haven't yet got the courage!
 
Rwise, sorry to hear thats how it came about in Oklahoma. Lucky for me I haven't had those experiences. Hope things improves down there in the long run.
 
seraplum, It sounds like its going to take a while for things to "shake out" in Oklahoma. There was a "gold rush" in Oregon too but most of the smaller scale commercial growers started out with limited resources and were looking at growing as a way of life rather than making a fast $. Things are starting to settle out there but there's a ways to go before that happens. People have lost a lot of money because they weren't well enough prepared to get through their first 2-3 grows before they began to make some of their investment back. I just hope the craft growers can continue to make it and compete against the big growers.The industry as a hole needs people with ethics and objectives such as yours. Cheers to a productive and professionally satisfying future!
 
seraplum_ ohhh. that would have gotten me wondering too. I guess I might be more concerned if I were much closer to the cartels and smugglers. But up here we don't have much of that going on. The black market for cannabis up here is so small those involved in it wouldn't dare try to mess with the rest of us_ it just wouldn't be worth the effort!
 
ZigZag I got the Source by Extractcraft last May, I think, and I love this machine because it reclaims the alcohol. I was getting embarassed about going into the liquor store for so much Everclear 190 ;-}
It also has versatility: I can make all kinds of concentrates. The buchner filter is the key to getting a vapeable concentrate; otherwise, it makes a fabulous strong tincture after I reduce the alcohol.

Here's the sap I made for my vape pen:
https://forum.growweedeasy.com/forum/growing-community/268943-making-cannabis-sap-from-trim

Let me know if you have questions.
 
Alltatup_ thank you, I'm very likely going to try that out..my main issue is that I like to use a 1:1 product most of the time. I have seizures once in a while and take pharm meds for it but don't like the side effects. For my body weight I need a lot more CBD than I can get from high THC strains. I've read a lot of what research efforts have discovered and for seizures and lots of other ailments CBD combined with THC seems to work best. The synergistic effect of both working together and extracts made from whole plant (not pharma derived products made in a lab) are most effective. They also have fewer drug interactions , such as with very high levels of CBD- like 1500-2000mgs/day. These levels of CBD (surprising when you consider all the hype about CBD derived from hemp) can slow down the metabolism of the other drugs making them less effective.
Anyway, I need a lot higher doses than I can afford from a dispensary_ it'd cost me $100's/day. So I grow my own and make my own concentrates and making that easier and more effective frees up a lot of time. Partly why I like the Advent so much. So thank you very much! Your advise has been really great.One thing I've been wishing for is a way to make an extract that could be used in a vape pen_I do enjoy the different "flavors" from different strains and they are most evident in vaporized form at the lowest temp possible. Even the 1:1 gets me plenty high at the doses I need but the cbd keeps a lid on that to some extent! Also seems to work at reducing inflammation and basic bodily aches and pains_ not a bad side effect too. Cheers and I'll most definitely be sharing and asking in the days to come!
 
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