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SOIL Starting my second battle soon. Questions + tips? advice?
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realhuuuman420
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I fed it around 30% of recommended dosage of BioGrow, BioBloom, and a drop of TopMax, along with a drop of CalMag.
Will report in a few days if anything has improved or the opposite.
Important question: Do I still go ahead with cutting the fan leaves and some of the stems that will not produce buds? Pistils are now all over the place, clearly showing where the buds will grow. Or does the defficiency mean I cannot go through with this anymore,since now the plant is weaker and later it'll be too late?
Will report in a few days if anything has improved or the opposite.
Important question: Do I still go ahead with cutting the fan leaves and some of the stems that will not produce buds? Pistils are now all over the place, clearly showing where the buds will grow. Or does the defficiency mean I cannot go through with this anymore,since now the plant is weaker and later it'll be too late?
Rootsruler
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Keep in mind that leaves provide a storage solution for the plants nutritional needs. Removing leaves has both good and bad things about it. I don't like to remove leaves unless they are dying off, blocking light to a bud site or bunching up making mold a possibility.
Work on your deficiency first. That is the most important thing to attend to right now. Flipping sick plants just leads to disappointing dry yields.
Work on your deficiency first. That is the most important thing to attend to right now. Flipping sick plants just leads to disappointing dry yields.
realhuuuman420
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Rootsruler so it seems that there is so far no new damage happening, but those affected leaves are getting worse - I think they are pretty much dead at this point. It seems that it is only the bigger fan leaves that have 3 fingers.
At what point should I cut them?
Plus, the leaves are kind of drooping down. Is this also a defficiency symptom? When should I start seeing some improvement?
Usually they kind of spring up after I water, and they did as well (watered and fed 2 days ago), but they drop back down after a day.
At what point should I cut them?
Plus, the leaves are kind of drooping down. Is this also a defficiency symptom? When should I start seeing some improvement?
Usually they kind of spring up after I water, and they did as well (watered and fed 2 days ago), but they drop back down after a day.
Rootsruler
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3 fingered leaves mean something is off. You need to go over all the parameters in your grow and find out what is stressing the plants. I would point to environment, but it might be a combination of things.
realhuuuman420
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Keeping a close eye on it, leaves are not droopy anymore. Still growing a bit and buds started to form. Will post pics tomorrow as I water and feed again. There has been some more damage on some of the upper leaves, but not enough to have me any more worried than before - seems like those leaves were already affected and it is now just finishing them off.
The fact that the damage seems to be contained to where it was keeps me relatively calm. Really hoping it was 'only' nutrient deficiency. That can be fixed.
The fact that the damage seems to be contained to where it was keeps me relatively calm. Really hoping it was 'only' nutrient deficiency. That can be fixed.
realhuuuman420
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I'm back with some more porn. As you can see, the leaves which were affected are now almost dead.
I am seeing some new damage, I think
on the upper leaves, but it's totally possible it was there before already and now it just spread a bit more. Watering and feeding it again today, this time with a bit above 50% of recommended dosage. I will give it only BioBizz Bloom and CalMag today.
Also seeing really rapid bud growth right now. Only yesterday, the buds were like 30% smaller. At least I got that going on...
PS: Sorry for the weird color/lightning. Really not sure why this happens. There's only one photo with normal light...
I am seeing some new damage, I think
on the upper leaves, but it's totally possible it was there before already and now it just spread a bit more. Watering and feeding it again today, this time with a bit above 50% of recommended dosage. I will give it only BioBizz Bloom and CalMag today.Also seeing really rapid bud growth right now. Only yesterday, the buds were like 30% smaller. At least I got that going on...
PS: Sorry for the weird color/lightning. Really not sure why this happens. There's only one photo with normal light...
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Rootsruler
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They look underwatered to me.
realhuuuman420
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You are right. Although I have been increasing the amounts of water I give it, I have not increased the frequency enough. I am still in the seedling mindset... every 3-4 days is not enough.
It's the goddamn PTSD from overwatering the previous one.
Underwatered + nutrient deficiency explains everything, doesn't it? The discoloration/brown/yellow spots, the slight curling on some leaves, and also the drooping.
How complicated can it be to grow a plant?
I will up the frequency as well as the amount of water, while feeding with every watering.
Some of the leaves are almost dead - when should I snip them off? Is it better to wait until they are basically falling off by themselves, or better to get rid of them as soon as possible?
Bluey thanks for the tip. I'll post some more porn tonight with correct white balance.
It's the goddamn PTSD from overwatering the previous one.
Underwatered + nutrient deficiency explains everything, doesn't it? The discoloration/brown/yellow spots, the slight curling on some leaves, and also the drooping.
How complicated can it be to grow a plant?
I will up the frequency as well as the amount of water, while feeding with every watering.
Some of the leaves are almost dead - when should I snip them off? Is it better to wait until they are basically falling off by themselves, or better to get rid of them as soon as possible?
Bluey thanks for the tip. I'll post some more porn tonight with correct white balance.
Gingerbeard
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Are you watering your whole pants? Hips and ass, not just waist.
realhuuuman420
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Yea that's a good point. Yesterday I did. I really stretched them out to be able to fit in there and water on the sides.
But until yesterday's watering, there was maybe 20% that probably did not get water due to gravity and my ass being shaped like a UFO. It seems that the pants are a little more waterproof than I thought and water never really seeped through well enough. I checked and that area was indeed more dry than the waist...
But until yesterday's watering, there was maybe 20% that probably did not get water due to gravity and my ass being shaped like a UFO. It seems that the pants are a little more waterproof than I thought and water never really seeped through well enough. I checked and that area was indeed more dry than the waist...
realhuuuman420
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Back with some fresh porn as promised - looks to me like we're back on track. No more droopy leaves, no damage has progressed, not even on the affected leaves. Big improvement from yesterday.
So.. deficiencies and underwatering seems to have been the correct answer. Hopefully that's it - and if yes, at least it's that, and not toxicity and overwatering, I reckon that would've been much worse
So.. deficiencies and underwatering seems to have been the correct answer. Hopefully that's it - and if yes, at least it's that, and not toxicity and overwatering, I reckon that would've been much worse
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Gingerbeard
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Dang it! Your pictures are doing that thing where the screen grays out and the picture doesn't show up. This isn't on you realhuuuman420. Might only be me.
Did you resize those images?
Did you resize those images?
Gingerbeard
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From what I can see, you might do well to take a look at supercropping. The distance between main cola and the lowers is doing disservice to the lowers because of distance from the light.
realhuuuman420
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The photos showed up after all? And yeah, I was considering high stress training for my next grow. I've read a bunch about pinching the main cola and then applying some LST and apparently people are having great results - with AUTOS! Which sounds almost criminal, and might be really risky, but yep.
But I don't think I could/should do that during this grow. It's week 5, in theory it should only be 4 more weeks before harvest.
But I don't think I could/should do that during this grow. It's week 5, in theory it should only be 4 more weeks before harvest.
Rootsruler
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The problem I see with the pants pot is the bottom part is wide while the top part is narrow. The wider bottom will have a higher perched water table ratio to the top so it's easier to overwater due to the large PWT vs the narrower media.
I wouldn't increase the frequency so much as making sure the fat area gets enough water to stay moist but not so much that the perched water table keeps it too wet and drops the O² exchanges in the root zone. It's kind of a fine balance which is why I would've gone with a straight cloth pot. The pants are fun but aren't all that conducive to even media saturation.
I wouldn't increase the frequency so much as making sure the fat area gets enough water to stay moist but not so much that the perched water table keeps it too wet and drops the O² exchanges in the root zone. It's kind of a fine balance which is why I would've gone with a straight cloth pot. The pants are fun but aren't all that conducive to even media saturation.