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Sad to Meet This Way

StickyNugsAZ

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Hello GWE

I've been lurking around for a few months and I've come to gwe now and then for many years.

In the late 70s, spread seeds in a giant circle in the state forest in New England learn to top and cull the males. Ended up with a few Buds and mostly leaf. I figure I was
around 12.
Phoenix in the 80s, high school years, had a few in the closet with seeds from the California Christmas spears, I called them, green piney and sweet. We re-veged one and thenslowly picked it to death. I've had others since then including a few 8 bulb T-5 grows around "the brick weed is all i can get?" years.
My last grows were about 4-5 years ago. On the last grow my favorite girl hermied towards end. So sad. Those were with two Viper Spectra 300s (I think they're 150 W) and anHPS. I had just bought my first actual grow tent but I had to take some time off to be a foster parent and never used the tent until now. I lent my stuff out and only got one of the Vipra spectras back. Black friday I impulse bought an ac infinity 6" fan with controller and that started the urge to set up a 12x9 foot room in recording studio soon to be grow room.

So here's my latest grow
Basically, it's all bag seed, that's over 10 years old, and the stains I cared for least are the ones I germinated with no real plan. I ended up with eight plants, three Hindu Kush, 3 Jedi Kush, one glueato, and one unknown. I expected a 50/50 ratio of males and kept looking and kept looking and I thought I could pull them long before flipping

them but I didn't see really any males. Flipped on Feb 15th. It turns out they're all females except for one Hermie (how is that possible? nodes seem non-symmetrical also. so seeds from hermied clones i am guessing). So I ended up culling the Hermie. put one of her sisters outside. the other sister and a Jedi Kush moved into a makeshift tent outside of my grow tent. Inside the actual grow tent (my first one btw) are just four plants now (the amount of plants i was expecting to have in there).
So yesterday I noticed the scary damage to some of the leaves of hindi kush in makeshift tent area... mites or some other pest that I am not really sure. At about 70x under the microscope I've seen what looks like little sperm shaped translucent larvae maybe.
I moved the plant with damage outside but may see the sperm looking things on the leaves of plant next to it. I am telling myself "Dont Panic". But the bugs are saying 'thanks for the fish' ;)

Any feedback, help, or criticism is welcome and appreciated.

Fox farms trio, 2parts ocean floor, 1 part happy frog, 1 part perlite. I used kelp me after each transplant. Maybe holy maceral once.
4 in tent under fc4800.
Make shift tent - 1 vipraspecter 300. 1 $41 Amazon special Baylabs xm-1000

This isn't the intro thread I intended.​ Nice to be here just the same
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Wtf kinda bug does that damage?!? I can't really make out what the critters are in the pictures. Do you have better images of the pests? I'm assuming you think spider mites. If so, you have two options:
Cut and run(trash it and sterilize)
Go to war(like a serious assualt)
Good luck friend. I'm interested to see how it goes!
 
I would try ISO mixed with water at 1 part ISO to 8 parts water. This is a contact killer and evaporates completely. With the lights off, spray them top side then under side soak them good, the soil pot floor everything. Then put a fan on them to dry faster, this will not damage anything, leaves nothing behind but dead bugs. It also needs to be done every 3 days for at least 3 treatments, then watch close. I would also spray all of the plants.
Also check into bud washing to get rid of poo and dead bugs.
I too cannot see the bugs, but they are there.
 
Dead center of third pic, right under the damage that's on the third finger, two critters, I think...
Can't zoom enough.
 
I had some unidentified pests in my garden. I had good results with Garden Safe fungicide3. About $9 a bottle purchased at Walmart. All my plants were still in Veg. You should get some more opinions before using it since your in flower. Good Luck.
 

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your heart is in the right place... but I really wouldn't use neem oil during flowering. Not only does it make your buds taste like crap the health concerns of smoking neem oil are not something you want to be thinking or worrying about while trying to get a buzz on. This is just my personal preference but something you might want to take into account before using ANY pesticide organic or not during flowering.
 
Thanks for the info. I've heard the same thing from several other growers. If you had an absolute emergency could you paint it on the leaves and stems with an artist brush?
 
That's unlike any thrip damage I've ever seen. And I've had my share of battle with them buggers!

Does no one else see them, or am I hallucinating?
 
​I looked at all the damaged leaves under the scope and saw no pest originally only damage. I kinda see some shiny leaves and thought maybe broad mites after looking through gwe. Leaves were outside for hours and i later found these critters but figured they might be from outside
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I removed the plant from grow area yesterday and wiped the area with 91% iso and today I noticed these small yellowish spots that are clumps of eggs when viewed at 60x.
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and these pests
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but I do not necessarily know these were the cause of the original damage. I am going to watch those spots of eggs and see. The best case is maybe a moth or caterpillar. I am going to watch the plant it was next to closely and maybe move oit away from the tent. I have seen no damaged leaves in the tent.

Thanks for the input
 

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It looks like you’re headed in the right direction with solving the dilemma. I think maybe you’re better than what you think you are and just needed some assurance. GWE Folks are good on both fronts. Reassurance and advice. Best wishes my AZ growmie
 
I wanted to add as embarrassing as it is, the sperm-like larvae I saw were likely trykes on the leaves. lol. I have never spent much time looking leaf. :)
 
In order I see
1 dead spider
2 tick
3 & 4 pictures not opening correctly the one time it did it was blurry.
5 Thrip
6 not a thrip something different
7 Thrip

I still say caterpillar damage above so I'm thinking you got several bugs. StickyNugsAZ How many weeks into flower are you?
 
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