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Photo's V. Auto's

Auto's are Great!

Easy -- and I like easy.


Great for the beginner - Let's face it, if you went the super soil route with auto's - no nutes to worry about - no light schedule to worry about - just keep the ph right and in 2- 3 months you have something.
 
I put 6 ak-47 autos in soil over a week ago,for a outside grow first autos ever! Two gal.smart pots all poped and now have real leaves putting them out side as soon as thay get strong enough,and temps warm up.No toping or trimming since its my first autos I just want to see how it goes.lol
 
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I don`t like gardening...hell, I have a bloke come in to do my postage size garden cos I hate it so much and I`ve only grown weed for just under 2 yrs but here`s my humble experience....I learned to grow using Auto`s and whilst they are great re: lights they can be right tricky buggers so by growing them they allowed me to get skills that, when I came to 12/12`s appeared to be a walk in the park....I now run both side by side.....I will have 2 grows of auto`s, one after the other to one 12/12....Auto`s are powerful and delicious and in no way inferior to 12/12`s though they are often dismissed....personally though, yields are lighter in my experience....I am happy with 3-4 ounces from an Auto but would want more from a 12/12, hence why I run the 2 types parallel.....which is better...well, I`d say they compliment each other so well and allow so many growing options time wise that it is equal....but I do think Auto`s are harder to grow and can trip you up quickly, if you take your eye off the game....also, you have to be fairly experienced to get a decent yield out of them....tricky buggers sometimes but then the best females always are in my book....excellent question...thank you for posing it...stay mellow :)
 

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StoneyTony can you list some strains for me that are known to handle topping well? Are there any good grow journals out there that an auto has gone through a great deal of training and turned out well?
 
PaganRich I should have known that your favorite movie is The Sound of Mucus!

Why do you say that autos are harder to grow? I am contemplating my first auto grow sometime in the not to distant future...
 
Actually it`s probably Constantine or the latest Dredd, first two blades and the orginal battle of britain but Constantine...he`s the man for me......................there has been a lot of work lately around auto`s and defoliation, topping, etc.....well, auto`s don`t like too much stress and as much as I love to slice n dice leaves on 12/12 I am far more cautious with auto`s....I never top, minimal fan removal and then the whole issue of centre tap growth not being restrained....you know first pot is thee pot....but for me if I hadn`t seen the work being done by Green75 I would not appreciate how much auto`s have come on....But you have to have the skill and confidence to achieve this without stressing them to a halt....I have had some bad yields in my early days...11 oz`s from 13 plants cos I went too hard, too reckless....gene`s can be unstable...I stick to the reds and darks cos they are pretty stable but Narco Purps for instance was an unmitigated disaster....actually I find with auto`s that claw, leaf deformination or just plain not making too or past seedling is another major issue...and finally yields...if you get good with them then it is fair to say that you came beat the seedbanks yield quote 80% of the time with what you manage to get to flowering....For 12/12`s I will dabble across the board and don`t like growing the same strain more than once....with auto`s I only now grow Darks and Reds unless I`ve got seeds to use up....but the thing for me with auto`s is that I don`t like a main cola with surround satellites, I like a cluster, one main cola means you get more popcorn in the first few grows til you get the hang and height control...genes not stabalised can give you low/high from the same packet....also cost, cos lighting isn`t any issue you can hammer in the lights, 12/12 helps claw back some lighting costs.....but with all these variables, you handle them and start getting 3-4 regularly per plant and I would say that youhad nailed it....for 12/12 I am still chuddering onwards to the 8-12 oz per plant...and until further breeding occurs, I think this is out of the auto`s range for some time yet...just some thoughts mate ......but I do love auto`s because they are robust growers and a glory to behold...I reckon old Odin himself tears up when he sees a Red Poison in full flower...anyone who slags them off can`t grow them properly in my opinion....be mellow
 
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Second Blade is one of my all-time favorites: those were some nasty-ass vampires!! Thanks for all the info on autos: I appreciate knowing that not all strains are "stable."
 
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I started 3 grows ago using Autos now I would use nothing else!. This seed was germinated March 20th 2017 Hydro is fun!!!!!! I ow it all to Green75 without whome this plant would be in my mulch pile out back.
 

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There are auto specializing group sites out there however GWE is the best in this subject as well as 12/12`s....but strains....cos there`s a lot of new ones coming along I`m not convinced the genes have stablized yet....good chat mate :)
 
After looking through a couple of your journals, you might be right. I am planning on growing photos for my first couple of grows to hone my plant training techniques and then I'll give autos a try.
 
I continue to believe that photoperiods are superior. Since there's no such thing as pure landrace autos, and I don't want my landrace sativa diluted with ruderalis at all, I'll go with photoperiod. BF Grinspoon, Sensi Jack Herer: that's what I want. I'm definitely tryna be a sativa whisperer.

I will stick with the variety and potency of photoperiod cannabis. The sativas I want to grow are all photoperiod; I'll take a long and challenging grow over a short and easy grow to get the strain and potency I really want. Yeah, I may run out of weed while I wait 14 weeks for my Purp Haze x Malawi to mature, but it's worth it to me.

Growing photoperiod plants is a different art form and type of challenge, and I want to be directly involved in the decision-making process on a number of levels throughout the grow. I love a good challenge!
 
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