Actually it`s probably Constantine or the latest Dredd, first two blades and the orginal battle of britain but Constantine...he`s the man for me......................there has been a lot of work lately around auto`s and defoliation, topping, etc.....well, auto`s don`t like too much stress and as much as I love to slice n dice leaves on 12/12 I am far more cautious with auto`s....I never top, minimal fan removal and then the whole issue of centre tap growth not being restrained....you know first pot is thee pot....but for me if I hadn`t seen the work being done by Green75 I would not appreciate how much auto`s have come on....But you have to have the skill and confidence to achieve this without stressing them to a halt....I have had some bad yields in my early days...11 oz`s from 13 plants cos I went too hard, too reckless....gene`s can be unstable...I stick to the reds and darks cos they are pretty stable but Narco Purps for instance was an unmitigated disaster....actually I find with auto`s that claw, leaf deformination or just plain not making too or past seedling is another major issue...and finally yields...if you get good with them then it is fair to say that you came beat the seedbanks yield quote 80% of the time with what you manage to get to flowering....For 12/12`s I will dabble across the board and don`t like growing the same strain more than once....with auto`s I only now grow Darks and Reds unless I`ve got seeds to use up....but the thing for me with auto`s is that I don`t like a main cola with surround satellites, I like a cluster, one main cola means you get more popcorn in the first few grows til you get the hang and height control...genes not stabalised can give you low/high from the same packet....also cost, cos lighting isn`t any issue you can hammer in the lights, 12/12 helps claw back some lighting costs.....but with all these variables, you handle them and start getting 3-4 regularly per plant and I would say that youhad nailed it....for 12/12 I am still chuddering onwards to the 8-12 oz per plant...and until further breeding occurs, I think this is out of the auto`s range for some time yet...just some thoughts mate ......but I do love auto`s because they are robust growers and a glory to behold...I reckon old Odin himself tears up when he sees a Red Poison in full flower...anyone who slags them off can`t grow them properly in my opinion....be mellow