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Not knowing what the problem is a pain

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Hi, I would like to ask you if it is possible to guess what type of problem my plants are having ? It's a pain in the ass. Not knowing what's happening is killing me. The biggest one's planted 1 week earlier than others. However, It's got some problem on the leaves. There're not dark green as they should be and some parts of the leaves have different color tone of green. There are curling (inside) on tips. Two little are 1 week old. Because these problems I flushed them. Because I use plagron batmix and thought it might be nitrogen toxicity.
By the way I use vodoo juice, B52, connoisseur grow A - B. Heat and humudity, air condition and vantilation everything is okay. May it be about Ph ? I used tap water. But fertilizers I use have Ph perfect technology. I try to keep Ph at 6.5 - 7.
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I have very little experience as I am in my first grow. Just moved to flowering stage. I had a similar issue and it cleared up when I added CalMag to the mix and paid closer attention to Ph. The 2 plants that were suffering recovered nicely.
 
I'm not sure when it comes to that sort of issue with that kind of medium setup...probly since you are also giving them veg nutes....let call on nugs...
 
If you had nitrogen toxicity, the leaves would be very dark green and likely curling down. Also, at 2 weeks old, with the nutrients you are using and tap water, you should not need to add cal/mag. How often are you watering? How long is it taking them to dry out? they look waterlogged to me, especially if tips are curling in and they aren't dark green. let them dry out.
 
I think water that could be sitting in water (runoff) overwatering to often and PH together won't let the plant take what it needs, adding more to the mix before you get it doing the right things won't help it fix itself.

Welcome thereb :smile:
 
Firstly, your 2nd pic is a mutant. I'd give it another week to fix itself, if it keeps throwing odd growth, I'd drop the axe.

Secondly, I believe you are left handed. Let me know if this is true.

Thirdly, Ive never heard of using advanced nutrients in soil. Their ph perfect system calibrates to 5.7-6.0 from my experience. I've grown twice using AN in hydro, great nutrients albeit overpriced.

Fourthly, you shouldn't be using nutrients yet since it's an amended soil. You probably have ewc (earth worm castings) along with bat guano in there. Both are pretty rich, probably too rich for such young plants. Not to mention bat guano is high pk, more for flowering than vegging.

Heres my recommendation: transplant to coco, use your advanced nutrients, have a good day :)

my $.02.
 
So Nugs...you like advanced nutrients for coco coir? Have you ever used GH flora trio ( that some consider out dated) ?
 
Yes I do. There are cheaper alternatives but it's easy to use and quite effective. While I haven't used it in coco I know some who have that love it. Just make sure you get the right versions as some are specifically designed for coco, like big bud, which has a hydro version and a coco version. One of their products I'm curious about is kushy kush. It's supposed to be specifically formulated for kush plants. Sounds hokey to me, I'm trying to dig up more about it.

I've been on boycott of GH products ever since Hawthorne (Scotts) bought GH. They bought botanicare and gavita too. Who know who's next. Ever seen that black magic soil at Home Depot? Same company.

I bought some azamax a year ago. It's the last Hawthorne product I will ever buy. Replacing Hydroguard when I decide to go back to hydro may be tough but I'll figure something out.

Vote with your dollars, IMO. I feel like it's pointless but I sleep better at night...
 
Thanks for answering :) and yes I am left handed :) before I purchised AN products I'd mailed them if it was possible to use these for soil and the answer was okay.

Should I stop using any nutrients such as CalMag, B52 and rooter as well ? and for how long I have to wait to use them again ? And Biobizz coco mix would be okay ?
Thank you :) Royal Nugs
 
Hmm... I just remembered, you connoisseur is probably not the coco version...

If you have a bunch of AN products meant for soil, maybe promix or sunshine #4 would be better than coco. I'd hate for you to buy new nutrients or use the wrong nutrients based on my recommendations.

Bottom line, I think your plagron soil would work fine without nutrients for quite some time. The bat guano makes me think it's more of a flowering mix though. I hate waste so I'd figure out a way that everything gets used. That's me though....

So I'd probably get some pro mix, transplant them in there keeping in mind another transplant using the plagron soil for flowering is necessary. Use the nutrients at half strength to start for the bigger plants. Then transplant into plagron soil a week or 2 before flipping to flower. You would need to test runoff ppm though to keep from over fertilizing. Let the plants tell you what they need.

Im sorry if I complicated this. Ultimately it's up to you. I want to make sure you're getting as much information as possible so you can make an informed decision.
 
Haha. I knew you were a lefty... you had your right hand in one of the pics...

I would stop all nutrients until you decide what your end game plan is...
 
Thanks for helping me out. I think I am gonna let them dry and Use tap water with drops of basic nutrients. I don't wanna make them look unhealty :) that makes me sick too. After seeing differences, I am gonna do my next move. And will share pictures of 'em :)
 
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