oldjarhead100
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I was thinking that same thing Ironic . I think your right about the bonds between us and the plants ,I always try and talk to my girls but sometimes they need to be emphatic cause I talk in my head lol
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SoOrbudgal
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I walk through my garden several times a day checking in on them on days off work. I just love seeing them and caring for them. July 4th at sunrise I finally cut my first WW auto grown outdoors. I gave thanks to her for hanging in there for over 95 days of many weather challenges and providing us with her relaxation. Her sister is about a week behind her, she's got a nice little bouquet of colas also. Oh the lovely scent of fresh weed hanging or smelling ripe buds in the garden, just heavenly.
SoOrbudgal
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So true alltatup I have a scent of lemon in the hang room.
oldjarhead100
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My inside grow rooms are completely shut down and I still check them a couple times a day lol I get to jar up the limpin louie today
SoOrbudgal
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Yes mine too OJ focus on outdoor and cloning a couple of best photos before they start to pre flower which could be first wk,. of Aug. Looking at my burnt cookie and WW although my mama mia could be in the clone mix. I'm about 70mi inland from the coast of Oregon but we are having cool mornings where I live and heats up to 85f during day. Not humid by your standards, dry. My photos are growing well now and even my autos are thriving now. Except for the GDP autos and I went ahead and planted another of GDP auto last seed see if it does poorly as last two dwarfs still going 80+ days figure there old seeds just bad luck grow. Weather here now shouldn't stall anything, but for grower errors. I also now have separated my photos and autos grouped them pheno strains. Won't worry about bloom feeding the photos instead of autos LOL WHAT DID I DO THAT?
oldjarhead100
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SoOrbudgal you made me think its to early to think 421 am lol I hadn't thought of taking clones from the plants that have grown the best , I wish I knew what strain the beast is (It and the auto seeds got mixed up )
alltatup
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WEEK SIX FLOWER I see foxtailing on my Green Crack.
First I checked my environment to see if there was an environmental cause: the temp is around 74F inside box with lights on, and the tops of colas are in the appropriate lumen range, the pH is good and the roots are good.
Then I went and did some reading about foxtailing. I looked in my grow books--Cervantes, Rosenthal, G. Green, Robt. Clarke and Mel Franks--and not one of them had any info on foxtails. I read GWE first, and then supplemented it a bit; the best information I found was on zambeza's blog: https://www.zambeza.com/blog-what-is-cannabis-foxtailing-and-what-causes-it-n315
I conclude that it's genetic on the Green Crack, because it goes all the way down the colas. Also, the calyces are nice and phat, and getting phatter.
So here are the girls this week (Green Crack is tall plant in left pic). Colas are developing very nicely (slower on the OG Kush, which is the shortest plant).
First I checked my environment to see if there was an environmental cause: the temp is around 74F inside box with lights on, and the tops of colas are in the appropriate lumen range, the pH is good and the roots are good.
Then I went and did some reading about foxtailing. I looked in my grow books--Cervantes, Rosenthal, G. Green, Robt. Clarke and Mel Franks--and not one of them had any info on foxtails. I read GWE first, and then supplemented it a bit; the best information I found was on zambeza's blog: https://www.zambeza.com/blog-what-is-cannabis-foxtailing-and-what-causes-it-n315
I conclude that it's genetic on the Green Crack, because it goes all the way down the colas. Also, the calyces are nice and phat, and getting phatter.
So here are the girls this week (Green Crack is tall plant in left pic). Colas are developing very nicely (slower on the OG Kush, which is the shortest plant).
MeestaFeesha
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Beauties!! Having not read a proper Grow bible, but recognizing the names, is there one you would suggest above the others?
Famine
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In my opinion they are due to too much defoliation, I also had the same problems when I did too much defoliation. Not having enough leaves to receive the light emitted, the plants react creating more spaced buds x to receive better light by not having the leaves that transform it.
Obi-Wan
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Famine
If it were due to defoliation rather than genetics wouldn’t we see it on all the plants? Given that all the plants were defoliated equally it strikes me as odd that you attribute the foxtails to defoliation even though it is only the one genetic that shows foxtails. Were you also growing Green Crack when you experienced your foxtails? Perhaps it was another genetic that was predisposed to foxtails. Perhaps another condition caused your foxtails. In this case I believe your conclusion was in search of a symptom, rather than reading the symptoms to reach a conclusion.
If it were due to defoliation rather than genetics wouldn’t we see it on all the plants? Given that all the plants were defoliated equally it strikes me as odd that you attribute the foxtails to defoliation even though it is only the one genetic that shows foxtails. Were you also growing Green Crack when you experienced your foxtails? Perhaps it was another genetic that was predisposed to foxtails. Perhaps another condition caused your foxtails. In this case I believe your conclusion was in search of a symptom, rather than reading the symptoms to reach a conclusion.
alltatup
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MeestaFeesha I don't know if the proper grow bible has been written--or if it can be written. I really like Clarke's Marijuana Botany written in the 80s, and I trust Rosenthal more than the others. So I guess I'd recommend his books, of which I own 2 or 3.
With the explosion of information that we now have access to on the internet, unfortunately there's a lot of crap mixed in, and many sites that just cut and paste from other sites. I see Nebula and Sirius's articles all over the place without crediting them. The best information is on GWE, and I like the breeder's blogs, like RoyalQueenSeeds blog and Zambeza. I find expert articles there rather than everyone just sounding off on their opinions.
The problem is, incorrect information and heresay gets repeated a lot. I type in a search like "Cannabis foxtail genetics" and nothing specific comes up on that topic--just the same that comes up with "cannabis foxtail." So you have to be inventive with search phrases.
With the explosion of information that we now have access to on the internet, unfortunately there's a lot of crap mixed in, and many sites that just cut and paste from other sites. I see Nebula and Sirius's articles all over the place without crediting them. The best information is on GWE, and I like the breeder's blogs, like RoyalQueenSeeds blog and Zambeza. I find expert articles there rather than everyone just sounding off on their opinions.
The problem is, incorrect information and heresay gets repeated a lot. I type in a search like "Cannabis foxtail genetics" and nothing specific comes up on that topic--just the same that comes up with "cannabis foxtail." So you have to be inventive with search phrases.
Mr.furley
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I'd have to second Rosenthal for a book for the fact that he has been around teaching cannabis for years, got me started in the 90's with no interweb and nobody talked about indoor growing.
GWE website is hands down the best place on the Web for learning to grow, fixing problems and fine tuning you style or is it would put it, "level up".
GWE website is hands down the best place on the Web for learning to grow, fixing problems and fine tuning you style or is it would put it, "level up".
Famine
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I didn't mean to offend you. You talk about defoliation and I answer you by having tried it before you. I found the problems you encountered on other genetics. Not all plants are prone to defoliation. With this I don't bother you anymore. Not having that I wanted to make a constructive speech on this problem. Green meadows and stormy peaks.
MeestaFeesha
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Through reading through Alltatup's journal the other day and yesterday, Famine is Italian. The translator that they are using (really, anytime anyone uses google translate or other programs) has been...interesting. Context and word meanings get a little foggy. I don't assume there's malice, let's not go back to the defoliation topic though. Moving on!
