GJ1: Sweet Black Cream and Nirvana Lemon OG Autos

[SoOrbudgal]

Looking really good Wizards nice and green. I been busy with both veggie and weed in my tent also, was a little crowded but got the peppers and tomots in the glorious sunshine now. Finally shut down the vipras for summer moving all outdoors. Got my girls outdoors now in the greenhouse but will move them into final sunny area soon. Those autos really grow fast when you got everything dialed in right you are doing it well for first time autos. Me personally don't feed my autos to heavy specially if your soil is real healthy. And I do defoliate more in the center to let the light get through but only several big fan leaves at a time. Your in flower now so watch the nitrogen keep watching how they look, don't let them feed too much. Your going to get more space to spread out your plants. You going to grow them outside now?

 

[WizardsNThings]

38 Days: Growing fast now! Had a friend over and didn't check much for two to three days and they needed some leaves taken off and some more LST. The Lemon OG Haze has a fairly nice even canopy, the Black Cream has been a bit hard to make even but doing well. I've never checked PH and use Advanced Nutrients which are supposed to be PH balanced. I could probably get more scientific about it but I've never had any major plant issues so I figured why bother. They've spread out a bit and started shading out a Wonder Woman and Strawberry Cough I started about 3 weeks ago to move outside in late June so had to reconfigure a bit. All good now!

The autos are staying inside. I have two others that will move outside. Unfortunately it is a slow spring here so all my peppers and tomatoes will keep growing inside now. I thin leaves here and there but with the autos I am not sure how much I can do and have them be resilient. They are definitely hardy. I pull big ones from the bottom and open up bud sites, and leave it at that

 

[WizardsNThings]

45 Days: Moving along nicely. The Lemon OG Haze leaves are a darker green and buds are slowly getting thicker. Just trying to make sure light is getting to all of it. The Black Cream is still stretching and getting big. The leaves are a lighter green and always have been but some of the real small ones near the colas are turning down. I think that's just how this plant grows. Watered last night, and going to water more today to be sure it isn't that. Otherwise coming along nicely

 

[SoOrbudgal]

They look so healthy Wizards doing a great job. My peppers will go into the ground this weekend and putting my legal grow of weed into the 5-10 gallon pots this weekend. They will stay in the greenhouse till I get back from vacation. We got hungry deer walkup to our garden all the time. So I move them around and they'll stay safer until we get back.
Sometimes in the tent when it's a.m. cooler my plants will look droopy even though I know they are healthy. And when flower stretch first starts I've noticed lighter color near top of new flower stretch. I think your doing fine. Happy gardening

 

[WizardsNThings]

51 Days: Left to go out of state for 3 days and watered heavily beforehand. Came back and everything looked pretty good. The Lemon OG Haze has pistils that are starting to darken and fattening up. There are some yellow leaves that may be nute burn but I'm not sure. Could be end of life yellow but it seems a bit soon for that. The Black Cream definitely takes more water than the Lemon OG haze and was getting droopy from being underwatered. It also needed some serious defoliation. I tried leaving some of the smaller branches that had reached the canopy. How many of those little ones to remove is always an exercise for me. I want a nice yield, but don't want to take energy into something that won't be worth it.

 

[WizardsNThings]

55 Days: Continuing to water with nutes one a week and water every other day roughly. The Lemon OG Haze is fattening up real nice. This is my first grow with the 450w Vipaspectra and I'd guess that's why. Still mostly white hairs sticking out so it'll keep growing. The Black Cream is slowly fattening. Decided to grab a 2nd 450w Vipa to throw on that one. Sell off this other cheaper 500w. Black Cream seems to have stopped stretching at this point. I trimmed off a few yellow leaves from the Lemon OG Haze. Still not sure what it was but it was only 3 or 4 leaves down in the center of the plant. The Lemon OG Haze has a delicious fruit smell to the resin. Really excited for these!

Any one have thoughts on why the Lemon OG has thick, semi glossy dark green leaves while the Black Cream has softer lighter leaves? Is that just the strain or possibly the light quality too?

 

[SoOrbudgal]

What's that leaf got on it in the first pic?

 

[Canuck147]

Pics 2 and 3 looks like your plants are drowning in water - just my opinion.

 

[WizardsNThings]

Hmm the one in pic 3 seems pretty healthy. The one in 2 I have been struggling with. Maybe it is overwatered and not underwatered.. I have no idea what is wrong with that leaf in the first pic. There were a couple others on the plant that were yellow without the brown

 

[WizardsNThings]

59 Days: My watering schedule is to do about 1/2 gallon to each plant, every other day. Nutes being added every other watering (halving the total amount of nutes to spread it out). Lemon OG is still looking great. The Black Cream continues to be droopy. I let it dry out for 4 days in case it was overwatered, but it made no difference and maybe got a bit worse? I just watered it again. The leaves appear healthy with no discoloration but they are all drooping. I'm going to post a separate help post to see if anyone has ideas.

 

[Spidermite]

What size pot is the droopy plant in? It looks like a root issue to me. Could be root bound, pests in the soil, soil to compacted, or over or underwatering.

 

[Canuck147]

I already gave you my opinion

 

[WizardsNThings]

3 gallon pots. I'm gonna play with the watering some more and see if that is really the issue.

 

[WizardsNThings]

61 Days: Both plants looking good. Some light nute burn on a few leaves. I'm going to start flushing the lemon OG haze (photo below). These are definitely the fattest buds I've ever grown. Very excited to try them out!

 

[WizardsNThings]

66 Days: Continuing to flush the lemon OG haze. Kinda wish I had chopped her last Friday but can't now. I am going away this weekend and don't want to risk it overdrying if it cut her down today. I'll wait until Thursday. It's mostly sativa, so it should just make it a bit more mellow. I've never grown a plant to the point where the leaves all start yellowing so that's interesting to see. The black cream is starting to fill out. Still has a ways to go. The buds on the lemon og haze have such a pleasant smell.

 

[SoOrbudgal]

Lovely grow wizards I wouldn't worry about it being alittle longer. Depending how you hang and dry your plant I've gone away for 5days with hanging whole plants even large colas can take up to a week to dry. But from my view of your plants abit longer should be fine. Just my 1cent. Good job!

 

[WizardsNThings]

68 Days: Cutting down the 'lemon og haze' today. After some reading, I am now pretty sure I mixed up these two seeds at some point :youre-killin-me: What I've been calling the lemon og haze this whole time, I believe is really the black cream. Although it's not nearly as purple as I had hoped, the leaf edges are all slightly purple and the buds a bit as well. The plant stayed short, and has thicker glossy green leaves. This, compared to the other which really stretched during flowering and isn't as squat, and has finer bigger leaves. I'm certainly no expert but I am pretty sure what I am chopping today is the black cream. I'll find out as it dries and potentially becomes more purple, and once I have a smoke. Oops!

 

[WizardsNThings]

68 Days: Black Cream has been harvested (pretty sure it's the black cream). As I said above, I think I mixed the seeds up. This has some nice purples in it and I am curious if it will come out more in drying/curing. I had 8 nice beefy colas and a few smaller ones. I have no guesses on the amount but my Nebula and Jack Mist in my last grow were smaller than this and I got 42g and 53g respectively, so I am thinking maybe 65g. They are hung to dry upstairs. The room is currently 71F and 61%RH. The weather just today started getting warmer and humid, just my luck. I removed all big leaves, and some small, trying to do a more controlled dry trim.

 

[WizardsNThings]

Sorry just saw this! The buds are pretty big so it should be fine. I overdried once and got an ounce of hay which was unfortunate. It smoked fine just had no real smell or flavor to it

 

[SoOrbudgal]

Congrats Wizards I have also done the seed mix up on my last 2 autos but that would be my guess with the black cream. You have done well with those autos, photos if given a bigger container you know will get much bigger they will be OK in 3gal just that you have some good seeds/good breeder if they were mine I would go 5gal minimum but it's up to you. Very well done enjoy the smoke!