9fingerleafs
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heres a visual representation of how they keep that vigor in inbred lines and what i explained in the paragraph above
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Obi-Wan
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9fingerleafs It always sounds easier than it really is is thanks for posting this visual.
RagWeedDWC
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You and me bot brother! Breeding fish was enough to teach me to just feed, not breed.
LurkingInTheGrass
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Agreed
it was such a nice pipe dream
Seeds, and clones, when I find that keeper strain.
it was such a nice pipe dream
Seeds, and clones, when I find that keeper strain.
JDU
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Y'all lucky. It's the opposite for me. I been breeding something pretty much all my life. I been fightin the urge & I don't want to & dont have the room but all this talk is turnin me on lol. I hope y'all happy cause now I'm drawing pedigrees & plotting lightning quick stealth grows. Developing a strain sounds like a challenge.
Sorry they have their girls around them, 3 males 3 females should be good for genetics (though I like more). I cant separate them as they are 2 plants in each pot, 1 male and 1 female, well not until I am happy I have enuf seed, then I will chop them out and get some singles.
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My first venture into breeding was long ago and not pro. Being raised on a farm, building soil and growing vegies I looked at those seed in all the bags that we were buying and said "I can plant these"! So we saved the best of the best which the first year was 4 strains that we planted together and let everything seed. We took those seed and the seed from 3 more top shelf strains and planted those together, let them seed. From here we did not need to buy weed any longer, just plant our own, and we let it seed, selected the best (each plant kept separate) planting the best of the best. At 5 years there was no dif between plants, and we double chromosomed them. This did some weird things for a couple of years, visible mutations. In a few years they were once again stable, and some folks said "No not yours, I want to walk out of here" or "I have to drive" which I took as a major compliment!
I wish I still had that strain, we called it Tulsa Tops! But someone found the seed patch, and we got no seed,,, I hope Karma takes care of him!
I would try to recreate it, but it seems one strain is now extinct.
I wish I still had that strain, we called it Tulsa Tops! But someone found the seed patch, and we got no seed,,, I hope Karma takes care of him!
I would try to recreate it, but it seems one strain is now extinct.
Farmall
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Interesting and cool story....my wife was a dairy farm family so other than cow shit and corn silage, all they grew was STINK. I find the genetics of people and plants so fascinating. I think as I pass thru the core details of growing plants, I would love learning how to actually create an genetic strain. I have only self-pollinated my lemon trees at this point....NO...NOT THAT WAY!!, used a small paint brush.
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If you have plenty of smoke then why not play with genetics a bit? I have several I will be breeding with, looking for a GG4 to make seed with a BB3 male. I have several landrace strains to play with also (have to get some Panama Red). Once set up I will not "have" to buy seed ever again! (more trading of clones to come) Breed inside grow my stash outside, thats the plan!
Burning one of my own creations this morning, Headbanger (20" 65 day) over Himalaya Blue Diesel (48" 120 day), autos. Where did the sour come from? These are very nicely sour smelling and tasting, one of them was like fresh ripe sweet juicy pineapple (that did not last long LOL). Neither parent had this flavor, not that I am complaining, just was not expecting this nice sour flavor/aroma. So far they get 20-30 inches tall and finish within 90 days.
Daskahn
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It’s possible that the diesel used in the Himalayas blue diesel is sour diesel and that gives the pineapple/ lemony taste/smell
Himalaya blue diesel is a cross itself so when you mixed the two the possible pheno types that could have presented theirselves could be pretty large.. thats why in general breeders start with a base strain.. aka an original or stabilized strain.. find yourself a real good base strain and breed for a specific trait then do the same with another.. till your good and happy.. mix this two plant as many seeds as you can off of them and then pick out only the ones that showed both traits kill all others.. or well you know lol and when you got the ones that only show this traits you have to cross back to each other till you stop getting seeds that produce something else.. at that point you got your own strain.. now there’s other people that might have tried that same combo and technically they could be similar but unless it was the same exact dna they started with yourll have a separate strain that’s why their are so many strains with blue in them.. or lemony I’d love to see a black dahlia mixed with like a Jack the Ripper..
Himalaya blue diesel is a cross itself so when you mixed the two the possible pheno types that could have presented theirselves could be pretty large.. thats why in general breeders start with a base strain.. aka an original or stabilized strain.. find yourself a real good base strain and breed for a specific trait then do the same with another.. till your good and happy.. mix this two plant as many seeds as you can off of them and then pick out only the ones that showed both traits kill all others.. or well you know lol and when you got the ones that only show this traits you have to cross back to each other till you stop getting seeds that produce something else.. at that point you got your own strain.. now there’s other people that might have tried that same combo and technically they could be similar but unless it was the same exact dna they started with yourll have a separate strain that’s why their are so many strains with blue in them.. or lemony I’d love to see a black dahlia mixed with like a Jack the Ripper..