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Cloning problem

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donpepito

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Hi all!

I’m getting some trouble trying to clone my plants. First timer here. I’ve tried with rock wool and jiffy’s, and fail on both.

I bought the king clone machine, looks pretty good.

Started 3 days ago, and one of the cuttings start to show some signs on the leaf’s (attached images). What might be causing it?

They are on a 24 hours scheme under TWO 27W Vivosun leds (the ones with three arms) at 24 inches distance https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q70AVKTQR_I

Ph is at 6. Indoor temperature is 23 / 24 degrees.

Don’t know the water temperature yet.
 

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Well i'm not a user of this gadget. I just cut a good stem at a angle and scrape the lower stem a tad not carve it just a slight scrap dip in water dip in clone gel place in soil or ph water give it CFL light or t-5 tube light and wait for the magic roots. Now this takes a few attempts to get the hang but heck if your pruning may as well practice. And good luck to you.:) After a while you'll get free plants well sorta free.
 
Not sure I understand " prune more the next ones " I think they actually look good and need time. My way can take up to 10 days or longer to show roots if I place in clear shot glass I can see them. But I really don't know until I see new green growth do I know if they lived. You'll sure see the droop of death floopy if they don't or just sit and rot till they turn rusty. But yours look pretty good. Some folks will make a humidity dome to not over water these if in soil but your set up if they are standing upright as yours and the bottom stems in the water. I'm thinking your OK for now.??
 
Honestly, the most reliable method I've used are the rockwool cubes.
I just pre-soak them in my nutrient solution(full strength Jacks 3-2-1), cut the clone with sterile tools, scrape the stem and trim off excess foliage and then dip in rooting gel/powder.
Straight into the cube and they sit in a tray under my veg light. I add very little solution, just enough to have a small amount of drainage and typically have roots popping in 7-10 days.
I've done the aero cloners and bubble cloners/sp[ray cloners and they all gave me more issues than just sticking the cutting into a cube.
 
Its your water temps, too high. If ambient is 23-24 then your water temps are higher. This is too hot for clones.
I have a king cloner too. A small aquarium chiller (100w) will fix the issue.
 
Your clones look fine to me and I personally wouldn’t change a thing. Sometimes a cutting will show a deficiency that the mother plant could compensate for given better root structure and performance. I clone in an aeroponic cloner similar to yours and as long as they don’t visibly wilt you can expect 80%+ rooting. My opinion is not fact but rooted in my experience in my environment, please take my advice with environmental considerations. I live in the Northeast US, hot & humid in the summer, cold and dry in the winter. Given my environmental conditions I don’t pay any attention to water temps when I clone. I did when I first started growing but for me they really didn’t make a significant difference aside from them rooting a bit better in the summer when the my humidity was more ideal, but humidity and water temp are only mildly related in an aeroponic cloning environment. Some strains are stubborn and won’t show signs of rooting for 14 days but most will give 3-4 inches of roots in that time period in an aeroponic cloner.
 
Clone King manufacturer says you can get 100% rooted. I get 95-100% on average. I make 75-100 clones per month. 80% is way below the benchmark for this particular product. High Water temps are perfect breeding grounds for anaerobic pathogens.
 
I add two fans, so now I have 3.
1 is poiting to the base of the bucket, another one to the bucket and the other one is poiting to the ligts so the heat goes up.

Water temperature right now is 24.5 celsius degrees, about 76 fahrenheit. It's quite difficult to lower the water temperature, and a chiller is quite expensive where I live.
 
A small aquarium chiller with pump and tubing is about $100 (US). Well worth it when considering loss of clones with out one. You can always freeze water bottles and put them in the reservoir. That will lower the water temps. Only, it’s a pain to exchange them as often as you will need. But that is a much cheaper option.
 
Thanks Toker. I will go to an aquarium when the lockdown ends.

Meanwhile, can you recommend me one that on Amazon or a well known aquarium? It's quite hard to get stuff from the US to my country, but it is harder to get stuff here haha.
 
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