oldjarhead100
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you know I usually trim as they go into bloom I think i will wait until stretch is done that makes alot of sense, The girls ready to go in just need the girls in bloom to finish lol
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atu grow # 9 (number 9, number 9, number 9...)
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PaganRich
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oldjarhead100 Man, you guys have not lived if you haven`t tried this...Toad in the hole or Sausage Toad is a traditional English[1] and Scottish[2] dish consisting of sausages in Yorkshire pudding batter, usually served with onion gravy and vegetables.[3] Historically, the dish has also been prepared using other meats, such as rump steak and lamb's kidney.........I love anything involving Yorkshire Puds mate
alltatup
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End of transition week 1:
I'm training every day and super-cropping a bit. Great contrasting colors of the dark green largest fan leaves and the new bud site growth (electric green).
They drank a lot of water this week; I had to add coupla gallons twice to each reservoir this week. So they sucked in all the nutes and drank a lot of water for the rest of the week.
I now understand that LST will keep hybrids shorter and that a longer veg period is a good thing. I think I've had a fear of plants outgrowing the grow box since I grew the monster Sativa, but it's not going to happen. On most previous grows I switched them to flower after week 4 without measuring their height at the switch. I've been recording all that info, plus re-reading defoliation and LST tutorials. I think I'm understanding various factors better.
Conclusions:
1. A longer veg pd. is much better for the plants.
2. correction here feb 10: I did do consistent LST with the girls after I topped. I don't know why I thought I didn't...such a stoner...
I could have left the LED box in veg for another week or pehaps two. I'm not so sure about the HID box, but it prolly could have handled another week of veg.
I'm getting better at allowing more bud sites to emerge in the middle of the plant, so I'm seeing a lot more than on previous grows. I hope they will all fit without over-crowding the space. I'm going for that air flow around each cola.
My flat tops are there on some plants, and I'm keeping the taller growth on other plants out of the way of all the bud sites coming up. It takes a good amount of time each morning to do some tie down, some bending and distribution of colas. Lots of leaf tucking and a little defol. More defol. at the beginning of this past week.
My flower counting is different on this grow: I'm not calling it flower until I see the whites of their pistils. So this is not week 1 flower. Learning continues, a deeper understanding of what we are doing together, the girls and I.
LED box Feb 3 and today:
HID box Feb 3 and today:
I'm training every day and super-cropping a bit. Great contrasting colors of the dark green largest fan leaves and the new bud site growth (electric green).
They drank a lot of water this week; I had to add coupla gallons twice to each reservoir this week. So they sucked in all the nutes and drank a lot of water for the rest of the week.
I now understand that LST will keep hybrids shorter and that a longer veg period is a good thing. I think I've had a fear of plants outgrowing the grow box since I grew the monster Sativa, but it's not going to happen. On most previous grows I switched them to flower after week 4 without measuring their height at the switch. I've been recording all that info, plus re-reading defoliation and LST tutorials. I think I'm understanding various factors better.
Conclusions:
1. A longer veg pd. is much better for the plants.
2. correction here feb 10: I did do consistent LST with the girls after I topped. I don't know why I thought I didn't...such a stoner...
I could have left the LED box in veg for another week or pehaps two. I'm not so sure about the HID box, but it prolly could have handled another week of veg.
I'm getting better at allowing more bud sites to emerge in the middle of the plant, so I'm seeing a lot more than on previous grows. I hope they will all fit without over-crowding the space. I'm going for that air flow around each cola.
My flat tops are there on some plants, and I'm keeping the taller growth on other plants out of the way of all the bud sites coming up. It takes a good amount of time each morning to do some tie down, some bending and distribution of colas. Lots of leaf tucking and a little defol. More defol. at the beginning of this past week.
My flower counting is different on this grow: I'm not calling it flower until I see the whites of their pistils. So this is not week 1 flower. Learning continues, a deeper understanding of what we are doing together, the girls and I.
LED box Feb 3 and today:
HID box Feb 3 and today:
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Doubledealing72
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Dang, those girls are rocking ATU!
LurkingInTheGrass
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Im curious to know, how your Royal Gorilla is stretching?
alltatup
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LurkingInTheGrass She isn't stretching like the Chemdawg and the Amnes. Haze; she's front left in the HID box. She could have used another week or so of veg...
oldjarhead100
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they really filled out wow looking great as usual
alltatup
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DEFOLIATION Famine this one is for you ;-}
Sun Feb 10 Day 12 of 12/12: As I watch the girls on a daily basis, I learn a lot. The communication gets set up: I observe and they show me what they need. I see them more clearly because I understand their structure so much better now. For example, I'm watching the bud sites because I want to see the moment when bud sites begin.
I sit and watch at the plant for a while in order to figure out exactly what she needs: do I supercrop a little, how many leaves can I pinch? Which colas should get tied down going in this direction? How do I expose this bud site? Can I tuck or will it start sweating, which I can't have? Pinch it.
As I wrote above I've spent time every day training and dealing with leaves. At the beginning of last week, I removed a lot of leaves, and the rest of the week, I steadily removed leaves which were sweating on other leaves or blocking bud sites. Based on these principles, I did not always stick to the largest leaves in some cases, to open up the interior canopy.
So I didn't exactly follow Neb's tutorial: Instead of a concentrated defol right before switch to 12/12, I started gradually to remove leaves as needed. Where I saw bud sites growing vertically, I let them have light. So I've created more bud sites than before I keep thinking about Nebula explaining how bud sites exposed to light early on in stretch will grow longer, fatter buds, so... we shall see.
What I didn't do, as I partially explained above, was to prepare the plants as completely as I could have for the switch to flower. A lot more LST would have set me up for the table top; the plants could have vegged another week and been a bit taller; that extra week would have made a significant difference for Jack Herer and Cindy 99 in LED box, who indeed did bounce back from the old nutes crisis, but still could have picked up a bit more steam. I understand this now as a series of interrelationships between causes and effects...
I hope I don't have to remove colas to keep enough air flow. I'm observing them closely, trying to determine what will work and what won't. I'm just going to have to wait another 10-14 days for the plants to manifest the next phase of growth. And, of course, all will become much clearer when I remove the long-stemmed fan leaves after week 3.
They are on day 12 of 12/12, around halfway through stretch.
LED box, badazz and C99:
HID, gorilla and chemdg:
Sun Feb 10 Day 12 of 12/12: As I watch the girls on a daily basis, I learn a lot. The communication gets set up: I observe and they show me what they need. I see them more clearly because I understand their structure so much better now. For example, I'm watching the bud sites because I want to see the moment when bud sites begin.
I sit and watch at the plant for a while in order to figure out exactly what she needs: do I supercrop a little, how many leaves can I pinch? Which colas should get tied down going in this direction? How do I expose this bud site? Can I tuck or will it start sweating, which I can't have? Pinch it.
As I wrote above I've spent time every day training and dealing with leaves. At the beginning of last week, I removed a lot of leaves, and the rest of the week, I steadily removed leaves which were sweating on other leaves or blocking bud sites. Based on these principles, I did not always stick to the largest leaves in some cases, to open up the interior canopy.
So I didn't exactly follow Neb's tutorial: Instead of a concentrated defol right before switch to 12/12, I started gradually to remove leaves as needed. Where I saw bud sites growing vertically, I let them have light. So I've created more bud sites than before I keep thinking about Nebula explaining how bud sites exposed to light early on in stretch will grow longer, fatter buds, so... we shall see.
What I didn't do, as I partially explained above, was to prepare the plants as completely as I could have for the switch to flower. A lot more LST would have set me up for the table top; the plants could have vegged another week and been a bit taller; that extra week would have made a significant difference for Jack Herer and Cindy 99 in LED box, who indeed did bounce back from the old nutes crisis, but still could have picked up a bit more steam. I understand this now as a series of interrelationships between causes and effects...
I hope I don't have to remove colas to keep enough air flow. I'm observing them closely, trying to determine what will work and what won't. I'm just going to have to wait another 10-14 days for the plants to manifest the next phase of growth. And, of course, all will become much clearer when I remove the long-stemmed fan leaves after week 3.
They are on day 12 of 12/12, around halfway through stretch.
LED box, badazz and C99:
HID, gorilla and chemdg:
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Farmall
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Certainly I’m no pro but I did this with my first set based on some pictures DAAS69 saw of my plants. He identified these sites and made me aware of this. Did not know exactly what it all meant but nearly 4 lbs of dry harvest later, he was right on the mark. Once again, thank you DAAS69... oh yeah...thank you
alltatup
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DAY 19 12/12 DEFOLIATION:
I think this is the most defol I've ever done, but being a stoner, I'm not completely sure. If I did it right, the buds should grow strong now. On five out of seven plants, the growth has been very strong: Jack Herer and the C99 in the LED box are stunted. They could have used more veg time to get over the early starvation trauma.
HID box:
LED box:
I think this is the most defol I've ever done, but being a stoner, I'm not completely sure. If I did it right, the buds should grow strong now. On five out of seven plants, the growth has been very strong: Jack Herer and the C99 in the LED box are stunted. They could have used more veg time to get over the early starvation trauma.
HID box:
LED box:
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