Well thank you very much Tika! I've put 13 years of work into this yard with basically all free plants(clients rejects!) but it came to a halt once I started my grow last year! Kinda looks like crap right now but I'm told I'm going to spend more time on it this year...so I'm told...The climate is willamette valley meets Columbia river, temperate, wet as hell right now, dry in summer and powdery mildew heaven by September! I'll post extra outdoors pics for ya and the others stuck growing inside!