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Adverse reaction with Neem oil ?

Farmbuck

Farmbuck

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Just wondering if it could be why I had an adverse reaction while smoking a joint of my Thai Chi sprayed with Neem oil several months ago (yes I panicked when I saw those damn aphids on my girls and went ballistic on the spray during my last grow). Maybe it's something else... Just say after a hour or two my heart beat jump to 130 bpm and I feel nausea for several days. Wife said to throw it out before you end up to the hospital. At my age and being diabetic I'm gonna listen to her.

Never again I'll be using this "shit" to kill those pesky bugs. :dead: All I can say the Thai Chi is out of the window.
 
Farmbuck can you explain how you used the Neem oil? Also if you used it during the flowering period? Another question is where was it sourced from? What brand? Did it taste like Neem? Or did it taste weird? How did the buds smell in the jars? Sorry it’s a lot of questions but I would really like to know what to be aware of? Also sorry for your loss hope you have clean material you can medicate with.
 
Cali I use Neem oil bought from amazon, it's been discontinued now... It's call Organix South Neem Oil. I used 1 TPS per 1 gallon in a spray bottle. I did it like 4 wks before harvest and I only spray it for 3 days on the bottom colas not the top ones. Did it smell or taste weird ? Not really !! The Thai were curing more than 9wks. It's smell more like lemon and curry so I'm not sure if I'm allergic to Neem it could have being something else like a bad diabetic attack but I'm not taking any chance with it. So I guess I learn a dire lesson here with this product. And don't worry I have plenty from previous grows.
 
Can you tell us what brand off Neem oil you used and were anything other than water used with it?

I just got my Neem oil, castille soap, molasses and sprayer the past day or two and was ready to spray tomorrow just before lights out.
 
MrPNW i believe he answered it on a reply to my questions? He also stated its discontinued and probably because it wasn’t a good product and most likely infused with what made him sick? I always recommend the GWE community to buy their Neem cake or Neem oil from NeemResource.com. That is the best Neem source I know of, the lady that sells it will reply to any questions you may have and has been around for many years which speaks to the quality of the products and customer service. It is also cheaper than anywhere because it’s straight from India no cute labels or marketing or any extras that you pay when you buy products from a grow store. Also Getting pure Neem is best because you don’t only get Azadirachtin you get all the other constituents from the Neem cake/oil that other companies take out. In India they have been using Neem for many years a lot a lot of years and they love it. They make Neem toothpaste Neem soap Neem everything look it up. You can find them at NeemResource.com. Some reports in India that are using Neem against COVID-19 because it’s anti bacterial. I would think that if it’s as some people have reported we would have people in India dropping like flies. But it makes sense that reports like that would come out when I can buy Neem and make a concentrated amount for way way I mean way cheaper than what they sell at shops and better quality. Monsanto and them come to mind. Also Farmbuck and everyone else Neem shouldn’t be sprayed during flower or Anything in my opinion, I’ve said many times I don’t care what the bottle says I’m not spraying anything on my flowers. I use Neem/Karanja cake in my soil mix that will take care of any nematodes,larvae, fungus etc. I Foliar spray once a week indoors only during veg. I choose cake over oil because the ppm is half of what the oil is so I feel more comfortable using cake. I have the oil but only for outdoors that will prevent WPM and anything else that shouldn’t be on my plant. I rotate weekly meaning next week I will spray lavender, the next some rosemary and so on sometimes I will mix the 2 or 3 point is to prevent. Always use Aloe Vera because the benefits are just too much not to use it. Wow I better stop writing now.
 
Cali would you mind posting your comment on my review page I linked to above? You mention mix the cake (not oil) in your soil. What amount are you using for say a 5 gallon fabric pot?
 
MrPNW i just put it on your link. Also my soil mix calls for 1 cup of Neem cake per cubic foot of soil. 1 cubic foot of soil equals about 7.2 gallons. I use the Clackamas Coot mix. Or you can do half cup Neem cake Half cup Karanja cake per cubic foot of soil that’s what I do.
 
Thank you, this being my first grow I went with Black Gold OPS with Nature’s living soil. On my next mix I’d like to try the cake to see if I prevent these annoying gnats/larvae without the need to spray.
 
This is the one I bought from Amazon a few years ago. Like I was saying it could have been an allergic to the product since it was my first time using Neem.
 

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kingfish most likely you didn’t use it properly or the quality of the Neem you used was of no quality? I use it in my soil and spray it(Neem Cake) and my buds taste good and smell sweet. Wonder what the problem is? Guess it’s just like everything else what works for some won’t work for others. Just glad Farmbuck is good.
 
Like I said I made the mistake of spraying during flowering and on my buds, I just followed their instructions.

Here the description:

Description
Garden & Houseplants
Protects and Nourishes Soil & Plants
100% Pure and Certified Organic
Cruelty Free
Vegan
Certified Organic by CCOF
100% Pure, Organic Neem Oil
Contains Naturally Occurring Azadirachtin
Neem Oil is respected by farmers world-wide for its reputed ability to support healthy plants and soil. Used for centuries, Neem protects and nourishes soil & plants.

Containing only 100% pure Neem Oil, cold-pressed from seeds of the Indian Neem Tree, TheraNeem Naturals Neem Oil for the Garden is approved for organic gardening. It is environmentally compatible, non-toxic to mammals and birds, and does not affect beneficial insects and bees. Neem Oil makes a biodegradable, safe and effective plant spray and soil drench. This bottle can make up to 24 gallons of solution.

Use TheraNeem Natural Neem Oil for the Garden on all vegetation, including houseplants, flowers, roses, fruit trees, shrubs & ornamentals.

Orchids, Ornamentals, Herb Gardens, Fruits & Veggies, Roses, Citrus

Suggested Use
Usage rate is one teaspoon Neem Oil per quart or four teaspoons Neem Oil per gallon of water. Add 1 teaspoon of an ecologically friendly dish detergent to a small portion of the water as an emulsifier. Add the Neem Oil and mix well. Add remaining water, stir and use immediately. For outdoor gardens, we recommended spraying at dusk to allow the oils to soak into the plant and soil. Do not spray in full sun. Use as a foliar spray and soil drench, spraying both the top and underside of the foliage. Repeat spraying once a week for 5 weeks.

You garden will be safe for immediate use after spraying. Wash fruits and vegetables prior to consumption. TheraNeem Natural Neem Oil for the Garden may also be used on pets and livestock.

Other Ingredients
100% organic neem seed oil.
 
It all sounds decent, the only thing I noticed was the dosage was a little higher than in my Neem post. It does mention adding dish detergent as an emulsifier/surfactant for holding onto the plants. What detergent did you use? Maybe the culprit was something in that.
 
Well I guess that is my problem... Shit I forgot the detergent in my mix !! Or could it be Azadirachtin ? Anyway I'm gonna use something more safer from now on and NO spraying on my buds. I came close to end up at the hospital that night. Guess you learn no matter how old you are.
 
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