After my last post I just couldn't shake it off, seemed wrong to leave it at that... i went thru the threads again, gathered intel(thanks all!) and went into battle mode. So I stayed home, spent another 2hrs finishing chicken bone defoliation, hoping I'd get rid of thrips too, sprayed the flowerers with azamax, last time until harvest, added diabolicious earth to all pots, added 1/2 " layer of sand on top of ALL plants in the shed, even the clones, they looked a little surprised!, also sprayed drain holes on pots, vacuumed all drain saucers and all leaves on the ground...running out of ideas...lunch time!