What's eating my leaves?

[Blazed227]

So I found 1 very small leaf on one of my MJ plants that looked almost identical just not as eatin up... didn't think much of it.. but this morning I noticed a bunch of my pea plants in my garden look like this also.. which is what this pic is from.. there are 2 that are really bad an acctually are falling over now.. I dunno if there dying or what.. mainly the bottom leaves like this.. anyone know what it could be?

[PigSquishy]

Oh I've seen this kind of stuff in my garden before more times than I care to admit or remember, and since you are saying you aren't seeing the "bug" doing it, that tells me right there you have a night time pest... and for me last year that meant "Aphids" and damn it if I didn't struggle to see them and find them for weeks. So here is how I addressed it, I went out at night with a flashlight since I don't see it in the day I figured it has to be a night pest, when I shined the flashlight on the leaves I didn't see anything even in the night. Oh I was frustrated and I wanted to find it, thankfully I had another with me also looking and as they looked and I was searching, suddenly they saw something also green on the green leaf move which I kid you not blended right in... a couple of minutes of watching and then a black dot I thought was dirt popped out legs and begin to also move as well and then the more I watched the more I saw them both heading for the leaf's stem... and then I found out I was hit by aphids, a single one lays thousands of eggs in a week so by the time you even realize you have an issue... OMG BILLIONS if not TRILLIONS of them are your problem in under a month...

So I ran to the store bought the usual products for them Insecticidal Soap, etc... only to later learn a Aphids defense is to turn toxic chemicals in nature and otherwise into non-toxic chemicals they can pass through their body without harming them, do you have any idea of how much that becomes a problem when you try to wipe them out? In the end I was looking for all kinds of stuff, then I got hit with Mold again and I had the same product "Ed Rosenthal's - Zero Tolerance" pop up for both my aphids, and mold... and a friend was getting hit by spider mites and needed a product and again that same one came up as a solution. In the end I tried that product against all kinds of pests, including tent caterpillars and I was able to reclaim my garden to being pest free. The product was cheap enough for a gallon, 100% all natural, even qualifies for some Vegan thing, and unbelievably even smells like something sweet and warm in the kitchen I'd expect to come out of the oven. The only real issue or catch I had with the product was, they were kidding about trying it trying it on a portion of a plant to see if you need to weak it out, it contains essential oils such as cinnamon so it burned my plants really seriously when I first tried it until i was able to find the right dilution for it. But it did wipe out the spider mites, tent caterpillars, aphids, white flies and whatever those black spec dots with legs were. Grasshoppers even avoided my gardens and destroyed everyone's around me, so all in all I wasn't complaining and I think it cost me about $20 a gallon...

Just make sure you understand the best way to defeat a pest is by learning more about it, how it feeds, reproduces, etc... of all my books I have one "Marijuana Pest and Disease Control: How to Protect Your Plants and Win Back Your Garden by Ed Rosenthal" he gets into all the details of pests and why it all matters in a short but very informative way. First time ever I've not spend all summer long fighting pests week by week, and just had one big battle against pests and them kept them at bay the rest the summer in the garden of vegetables as well as other plants too. I seriously hope that helps you... because my personal guess if you have aphids yourself because that is exactly how my plants started looking... Later I found to go back and carefully look at the plant leaves and saw before the holes appeared it looked like something was eating cannons in the leaves for depth before the holes would appear... and thought it might be a mold not knowing that is how aphids work.

[Blazed227]

Well hopefully I don't have them bad yet, I've seen Amy's in my grow room recently so put out traps for them

but they were up in the plants.. so maybe that is what there doing is eating aphid shit... only 1 leaf was eatin on in the grow I just checked them real good last night an found no other signs of the leaves bein eatin on or nothin nothing like that.. a few leaves are yellow but only because there not getting light cause the plants are bushy..

[Minoo96]

Hi,
Some kind of slug can do such damages also. Did you noticed some saliva?
I tried diatomaceous soil (couldn't find it in other form than powder though), its a white powder that attacks any insect. It doesnt attack the plant (or shouldn't at least). I spread a circle around the plant, to protect it against crawling insects. I have a mosquito net to protect it from flying insects. Also, I started treating my plants only when it started getting out of hand. Otherwise I believe nature has a tendency to regulate itself (don't overtouch the garden, like pulling every single weed etc).
Also, I'd advise getting some information on mulching, for your garden eco-system and also the water intake of your plants (with mulch, you water less often).

[PigSquishy]

When dealing with slugs, a great cheap way to kill them is to put out a shallow pan of beer, like a pizza pan, and the slugs race for the beer, they drink and drink until they die right there... simple, cheap and effective, been doing it for years.

Well just keep in mind Aphids are so super tiny I think they are said to be 1/16 of an inch as adults and can come in all kinds of colors, mine matched my leaves... I seriously hunted and hunted because like you I had my problem start, I found nothing and yet days later more leaves were eaten... it took a bit for me to ask another to come help me find the problem. Even then I had to have them pointed out to me, because when the light hit them they stopped for 3-4 minutes, as light dries them out, and even when I knew I had them 100% for sure I could search and search for 30-minutes just to find the first one, but the damage they did to me wasn't so hard to see and would take 3-4 days before it would show up, I think it was more like 7-days from the first noticeable issues. I pulled out every gardening book I have looking for the problem I had and I still had issues trying to find my issue, hopefully you don't have them, but if you do it will give you something to keep in mind because they are super stealthy.

[Blazed227]

Well I did find a really small clear cut about the size of 2 small pencil points an a little ovalish that seemed to hop whenever my finger got close... also seen a tiny reddish orange bug that was about the size of a pin.... so I mixed up the azatrol rather strong an BLASTED THEM ALL used like 3 gallons there was so much that dripped off it covered my whole grow floor like 2 inches an I let that sit the whole time lights were off... I also sprayed tje walls an did a soil drench
. Gonna keep hittin them every week or so.. not talk. Any chances

[Blazed227]

I do have alot allot of slugs around my house an it makes sense that it's only the lower leaves but who knows.. it's weird tho cause there only hitting my pea plants an not the peppers tomatoes nothin else

[Blazed227]

Only 1 leaf on one my girls in my indoor grow was dmgd... but I've only seen bugs on the ground not the actual plant.. my floor is white.. so easy to see bugs somewhat so after I seen them 2 bugs I said fuxk it went to the store spent 105 fckin dollars on that damb spray which better work lol also bought 300 lady bugs to let loose.. just incase

[oldjarhead100]

diatomatus(spelling is wrong) earth spread around the plant will kill any crawling insect without poisoning everything else