Killer A5 Haze Manifold

[Ckbrew]

Manifold progressing well. What is the tape for? If it is just the topping, no need to do anything to it. Do you know about softening up the stems before you bend them? Give the stem a firm squeeze to give it a slight crushing injury. This will soften it up so it will not break. It will need to be supported after that. It will heal in several weeks and be stronger than it was.

[golfnrl]

Thx. Yes, the tape is a band-aid. I noticed the main stem topping didn't heal the way I'm used to seeing so I put the tape over the hole for a while to see what happens. Good point about the woody stems. That's def an option.

[Bluey]

Once you get your canopy nice and flat I'd think you'd have a 4x2 filled around day 45 with ONLY ONE PLANT, give or take, of veg then I'd flip. You have enough head room to let it shoot upwards on the stretch.

Keep your light going great guns to keep nice tight growth. Nice good breeze helps here too. Continue to LST every day or two, a little bit at a time.

Your numbers are pretty much spot on but I see you're struggling with a bit low humidity but that's ok, just keep temps a fraction lower also to even out VPD. Keep increasing PPFD so your maybe around the 40 to 45 DLI at the flip which will be about all she can take. Nutes maybe around 1.5 to 1.9 EC.

When topping I let the plant go 2 to 3 nodes above where I will cut but always cut just under the higher node. Even then I still split them trying to keep them flat.

Your girls look picture perfect! Fertigate often. Run off around 20% twice a week.

You're on target for a perfect grow. I'd be supplementing calmag every second watering now around 50% recommended for that stage.

[golfnrl]

If I remember correctly, the A5 almost tripled during the stretch the last time I grew it, but it wasn't a mainline grow. I started counting veg 4/24, I'm assuming your day 45 note is in reference to that?

[Bluey]

Day 45 was a stab in the dark as to when to flip. In other words your tent will be full by then and no point going any longer with veg. So yes, in ref to that.

Last grow, veg, I did in a 4x2 I couldn't get them out of there into the flower room soon enough and ended up with a full tent growing into the light, still in veg. Was a jungle in there.

[golfnrl]

Update: She seems to be growing well. I've got her staked out as best as I can at the moment. Doing some leaf tucking to expose bud sites lower on the middle nodes. I think I can pick up four more buds rather easily.

The HLG 350 Rspec is 24" above the canopy at the 4th click on the dimmer dial. PPFD is 573 between the nodes on each end of the plant. The middle nodes are at 485.

Temps are hitting 80 F during lights on and 70 during the dark period. RH is 58-60%. I've held the PH at 5.9 for about a week. The EC is 1.4. I want to bump it up a little to about 1.7 but I'm seeing some burnt leaf tips. That bothers me but I won't be overly concerned. I'll raise it slowly. The Ace Seeds grow guide says the A5 likes strong nutrients throughout the grow cycle.

I'm using the autopot system with a 12 gallon reservoir changing out the nutrient solution every 3-4 days. If I was growing more than one plant on the system I would not be changing out the solution. Using CX Horticulture nutrients starting with 10L's of water adding base Coco A&B at 12ml per L with Growth Enhancer, Wilt Guard, and Regen-A-Root at 10ml, Bio Balance at 2ml and SLF-100 an enzymatic cleaner at 5ml all measured with a syringe.

Depending on how she grows, in another 10 - 14 days we'll probably flip to a flower light schedule.

More later.

[Drphil69]

That's one nice looking manifold. Do you know how many bud sites you have? Looks like 30+!

[golfnrl]

That's a good question. I counted 32 but ima guessing some of them may not survive the next trim depending on their potential to fatten up during flower.

[Wayzee]

That's looking great man. Didn't seem to take long to rebound at all!

[Ckbrew]

You have it tied down to the wall, good touch, looking good. What is the foil covered object hanging above the center of the plant?

[golfnrl]

Thanks. It's a little weird looking at that plant opened up in the middle like that.

It covers the ACI RH/Temp probe. The foil cone blocks air movement. I think AC Infinity recommended it. Can't remember.

[Bluey]

Recommended temps for growing at different stages are the air temps measured in the room. Sticking a thermometer under the lights gives you a rather skewed reading. Makes it difficult in a small tent.

Your plant is looking good, not long till flip now. Try not to burn her with your nutes..I tend to push the light more so than the nutes....remember, light is food for the plant, not the nutes.

[golfnrl]

The foil does a nice job of deflecting all of the direct heat from the lamp to avoid a skewed reading (smile). I read somewhere that measuring the temps at canopy level was best. Maybe that's debatable. IDK, but if the foil cover isn't there then the reading is off when the probe is placed above the canopy. You're right about light and nutrients, with light being most important, took me a while to figure that out.

[golfnrl]

Update: She's growing well. I have been trying to follow Nebula's guide to manifolding. I think I'm at the point where she says to give a final minimal cleanup before switching to flower. So, I did a trim in prep for the flip. Because I am not the best at knowing what and where to trim I took off less than what I probably should have. I was thinking I'd veg for a while longer but based on how she's growing I'll make the switch to flower in a couple of more days.

[Ckbrew]

Are you planning on using a net to support them?

[Bluey]

That would be a good plan Ckbrew , and then another net above that, or as I prefer, yoyos to support the colas. He's definitely heading that way.

I do typically give a bit of a trim around now and and pluck leaves off of colas on the ones where the stretch might be trying to get away from me during the stretch. I give another decent trim around 3 weeks or so after flip. That's often the plan but it doesn't always go to plan either.

You've got a good light. What range do you think you'll be able to keep the environment temp and RH wise through flower?

[golfnrl]

The bowl shape is bothersome. It's the height of those end nodes that is making me cut the veg time a little short. I made the mistake of not tying them down soon enough. Lesson learned for next time. We'll see how the middle plays out during the stretch.

I had not considered a net, I've not used one and would be a learning experience. Any advice or post I can consider/look at? I'm planning to defoliate again at about the 3 week mark into the stretch.

The plan for flower is as much light as she'll take. This light gens some heat, so probably no more than 7 on the dimmer dial. Maybe no higher than 5, depending. I'll try and run the flower period at the upper range around 1000 ppfd. We'll get there by letting the plant grow towards the light til she gets about 15" away and we'll adjust intensity as we go. Temps and RH may be a bit of a challenge as summer comes and goes but we'll shoot for no more than 80ish F during lights on and no less than 70 F during the dark period. RH I'll try an maintain 50% until late flower and then try for 40% but we'll see how it goes. The dehumidifiers will get a work out.

[Ckbrew]

Before net placement. Day 14 after flip. The net is above the plants, plants are given a good defol, then the net is lowered on the plants. The branches are spread sideways, bent, and interlocked in the net. It is what I call a net splat, caus it looks like they got the broom and went splat.



After defol the net is lowered and the plants get hit with a broom and splat. They recover quickly. Later if it can be reached, strip off all growth below the net. The buds just grow and grow.


End result just before chop.


You can see the entire grow here: https://forum.growweedeasy.com/forum...4-eclipse-grow

[Drphil69]

That is awesome!