Starting my second battle soon. Questions + tips? advice?

[realhuuuman420]

So according to the manuals, the nutes in the soil should have lasted approx. 5 weeks-ish, so I did not feed it anything yet.

I have greatly underestimated the amount of nutes a plant of this size needs. Damn! night and day difference from the previous tiny one.

[Bluey]

Yes! You've washed out nitrates giving it runoff in a soil grow. Nitrates arent just N either, it's everything that is part of that, eg. Magnesium Nitrate, Calcium Nitrate, and on & on it goes.

The loss of pigment is most likely as a result of a lack of most nutrients, the beginning of rust spots is a lack of trace elements, the blotchy patches lack of same and can be also be inficative of widely varying pH.

Yes you'll need a quality pH meter and some decent nutes to bring it back on track. Do not over feed. Best start with half strength nutes.

All is not lost.

[Rootsruler]

Dude......do you feed your plants regularly? If so what are you feeding them?

[realhuuuman420]

Gingerbeard I have not added calmag yet and I have not tested pH either, only water, which has roughly 5.9-6.2 ish

Bluey - are you saying this is a deficiency? so ... I should feed it next time then?

[Bluey]

This color change did not happen over night.

You've been losing pigment for more than 11 days. Giving runoff in soil will flush out nitrates.

[Gingerbeard]

Since you asked about pH and calcium, what is your pH and have you been adding calmag?
It is not light burn.

[realhuuuman420]

Shitshitshit. What's going on? I didn't do anything yet!

Two days ago I watered with plenty of water, as advised, until I got some runoff. This just appeared kinda overnight.

unstable pH?? calcium deficiency?

Giving it calmag with next watering (1 or 2 days). Should I give some nutes as well?

Can this be light burn?

[realhuuuman420]

Hey, just a quick question. I am all ready to do some mainlining and take off some of the major fan leaves as you guys suggested.

But the plant has now reached the beginning of flowering stage, I can see pistils on the tops. Previously I've been advised to not mess with it anymore when it starts flower.

So what do I do? Should I still get rid of most of the big fan leaves, and maybe do some very light LST - tie some strings and open up the canopy a little bit?

Last thing I want to do is kill it via cutting too much.

[Gingerbeard]

That would be the Audrey syndrome.

[realhuuuman420]

Got it, Bluey , will take a look at the tutorials. Thanks!
Rootsruler - I was indeed wondering about when do I start watering till runoff. Could have probably started much earlier, as it does feel like I am not giving it enough water. Thanks, noted!
Gingerbeard - I suppose your advice is in line with what Bluey says, I'll look into the tutorials section and see what I can do. But intuitively I know you're right, those fan leaves are absolutely gigantic. Will start checking pH of the runoff as well.

Many thanks all of you. If I don't post within a week, it means the plant has consumed me and we are now one.

[Gingerbeard]

D'ang! That's getting to be quite a bush you got going in your pants!
Me, personally, what I do but do not recommend for fear of taking the blame for killing your plant is get rid of the major fan leaves except the top two sets. If you do it, your garage might fall down and your car will get a radiator leak so don't do it, get me? Then take a look at LST jut to keep your main cola in line with the sides.
As far as removing anything that produces a flower, leave it. This is on course to be your first successful grow. Use it to see what grows where and what grows and what they give. Next grow worry about suckers.
Your soil is cooling. Whatever pH buffers were in your soil are flushing out along with all the veg nutrients. Start watching your pH. That might be part of the problem with your lower leaves. Although it is normal for lowers to discolor, yours are a bit young to do so without help.

[Rootsruler]

Try not to water in measured amounts just water until you start to see water come out the bottom. Don't water too fast either. Water in 1/4 liter at a time.

[Bluey]

Consider mainlining/manifolding it. Instructions in the tutorials. To give you 8 large colas and 30 odd medium size ones. It will increase yields substantially compared to just leaving it, easily way more than double.

[realhuuuman420]

IT IS GETTING OUT OF CONTROL!

Jeesus. Look at this monstrosity. Help. Soon it will start consuming the house.

Jokes aside, it seems REALLY dense to me. Most of the plant is in shadow because the top leaves are blocking out the light.

So, should I cut anything? If the only danger here is smaller yield, I don't mind that, I think it will be decent either way, right?

But there are a lot of those 'suckers' or whatdoyoucallthem. They grow from the 'armpits' of already established stems. Should I cut those?

It's still growing, both vertically and horizontally. Oh god. I need a garden for this, not a tent.

The discoloration seems to not exist on the latest leaves - but I will be g iving it a little bit of calmag with next watering (probably today or tomorrow, will see how heavy my ass is)

Also the plant seems to droop a lot, and springs back up whenever I water, not sure if that's normal? Am I giving too little water? Last watering was only around 500 ml, but the plant was half its current size omg.

Gingerbeard , I did get a really good indica, that's exactly what happened Instead of checking on it every 2 hours, I just check once a day and am always blasted away at how much it has grown.

This is now 3 and a half weeks from sprout. Rh at 45-55%, temps hovering at 23-25C, gentle breeze on the plant from one fan + a pretty strong exhaust. Have not fed anything so far, only filtered tap water, around 500 ml per watering, every 3-4 days.

[Gingerbeard]

You must have found a good Indica, realhuuuman420. Been four days since your last post!
When you say you think something is happening too fast or too slow, buddy, you do not yet know what too fast or too slow is. This is coming along to be your first successful grow. This is your litmus test.
Figure cannabis has been doing its thing, naturally, for a few years. It knows what it likes for leaf spread. We only move and remove things to help the plant do what it already knows what to do. Worry more about leaves blocking flowers, less about leaves blocking leaves. There's a lot of science in what we do, but there is also a lot of philosophy.