demoralized here.....

[homegrown]

Your plants look healthy Weedfreak, and im guessing you meant to say 6 and 8 weeks worth of effort with your pics? i hope so cause thats some long growing autos... I think you need to show us a pic of your lights and specs. I use a 60w board for seedlings or occasionally to keep plants in a holding pattern until i have room in the tent. How far away are your lights now? could always raise them some more to make them stretch for the light. I would also spread the watering outside of the leaf canopy, make the roots explore the whole pot. But water less often...that small, once every 5 days or whenever it feels light to pick up.

[Weedfreak]

[QUOTE=Weedfreak;n629793]So here they are in all their 2"-3" of glory. I present 6 and 8 months worth of effort. [
6-8 weeks. Not months.

[Weedfreak]

Your plants look healthy Weedfreak, and im guessing you meant to say 6 and 8 weeks worth of effort with your pics? i hope so cause thats some long growing autos... I think you need to show us a pic of your lights and specs. I use a 60w board for seedlings or occasionally to keep plants in a holding pattern until i have room in the tent. How far away are your lights now? could always raise them some more to make them stretch for the light. I would also spread the watering outside of the leaf canopy, make the roots explore the whole pot. But water less often...that small, once every 5 days or whenever it feels light to pick up.

Yes. I meant weeks. Not months. My lights are currently are about 21" from the tops of the plants. I'll raise them today. AFA watering, I'm using a coco/perlite/vermiculite 60:30:10 mix as growing medium and was under the impression that it dries out faster and needs to be moist. I just watered. Also, I took the pictures after watering so, that's why the leaves look wet. The temperature in the room has been whatever it was outside, except when it was in the 90's this past july. I kept it in the 70's those really hot days. Also, the gal at my local grow shop said it needs to be humid. How humid should it be? I mean, I have the room ventilated, windows open, fans going. Thanks for all your input.

[Bluey]

What water are you using? I'd be checking light levels first though.

[Weedfreak]

Thanks for sending. Stunted but otherwise looking healthy. When the leaves bend down like that it means it's a little too wet (or the lights are about to go off for the night). 63 percent humidity is fine but honestly even very low humidity is fine, depending on where you live I might just turn that thing off. It looks like your leaves are all wet, is your sensor calibrated or is it actually super super humid? Everything seems too wet. They've been growing for six months?? That's crazy. How warm is it in there? Also get your wattage figured out. My guesses are too much watering, too much humidity, not enough light. Maybe too cold.

2 - 78 watt full spectrum LED's 14" L. I turned off my humidifier and raised level of the lights to 27" above tops.

[Bluey]

So what height were they?

[Weedfreak]

What water are you using? I'd be checking light levels first though.

I'm using Spring water that I checked the pH levels.

[Bluey]

Spring water is packed full of trace elements. Can you measure the waters EC?

Also can you take a good photo of the sticker on the lights or on the info on the driver if it has one?

[Weedfreak]

[dirtymike]

Now for some air exchange and circulation, cannabis likes to think its outside!! Think about sitting on a sunny hill with your feet in the shade, its 78 degrees and 65 % humidity with a breeze of 5 to 10 mph. Now aren't you Happy there.

[Bluey]

I know nothing about those lights. I need the manufacturers info on the label of the lights. How old are they?

Your plants really are looking great, perhaps a fraction N heavy given what appears to be already dark green leaves on the bottom and not light green new growth but it's not showing any toxicity signs so all good.

[Bluey]

I know nothing about those lights. I need the manufacturers info on the label of the lights. How old are they?

Your plants really are looking great, perhaps a fraction N heavy given what appears to be already dark green leaves on the bottom and not light green new growth but it's not showing any toxicity signs so all good.

[Weedfreak]

I'm using Spring water that I checked the pH levels.

What are EC lelvels?

[Weedfreak]

Here's a link of the model and brand of lights I'm using.

https://goodearthlighting.com/led-adjustable-full-spectrum-high-bay-grow-light-auto-timer.html

[Bluey]

Found the problem.

It only produces 117 PAR, 2 lights 234 PAR, and that's measured in a perfect lab environment.

You do not have nearly enough light. They are not for growing cannabis.

Can I suggest you look at the new Spider Farmer and MarsHydro bar lights, Samsung EVO LEDs fir your grow space size.They will produce lots more heat but your plants will grow.

[Franklin]

Plus 1000 what bluey said. On the positive side, your plants look super healthy which is most beginners' problem. Just get some more light in there, don't water so much, you probably don't need the humidifier.

[Weedfreak]

Here's a link of the model and brand of lights I'm using.
https://goodearthlighting.com/led-ad...uto-timer.html

Thanks. Two questions. WHat is PAR ? How many PAR do I need?

[dirtymike]

I try to PAR every hole. PAR = Photosynthetic Active Radiation

[Weedfreak]

How many PAR do I need? I've never even heard of it until today.

[Bluey]

Clones 100 to 150
Seedlings 250 to 350
Vegetative stage 350 to 550
Flower stage 550 to 1000
The above is a rough guide, depends on strain and environment, EC etc.

You need to read this

https://www.growweedeasy.com/basics

[Weedfreak]

I did read that. nothing about PAR. How many PAR do I need?

[Bluey]

I added a PAR guide to the post Weedfreak

[Weedfreak]

NVM. I just ordered the Spider Farmer 2000. Thanks for all your help.

[dirtymike]

Air exchange will be next. That SF2000 is going to make things real warm fast. Where's your fans, and exhaust?

[Franklin]

dirtymike is right. Don't cheap out on exhaust fans. They get loud and break. AC Infinity is the standard and best and really not too much more expensive. You'll also want an in line filter