Second Bubble Hash Attempt

[No3odiesShad0w]

I have finally filled up 2 gallons of fresh trim from my last few runs. I want to try making some bubble hash. The first time I tried, I botched it. I put the bags in backwards and then I had the ice crunching everything instead of using the waters current. This was like 3 years ago.... Very different info out there. Now I've done all my proper research now. I'm more confident it will go smoothly this time.

I washed and sterilized my 1 gallon ZehHydro bags. Then cleaned them with multiple washes in 70% and 91% alcohol. I don't have the 220 working bag. That one got ripped by the mixer I was using so my new working bag will be the 190. Since this is all for me, I'm just going to use the 25 micron bag to catch everything, over that will be the 73 micron then on top of that will be the 120 and then my working bag of 190. I'm going to skip the 45, 90, 160 bags. I figured there's no point in giving myself all that extra work just to have a few extra grades of hash when in total I'm probably only going to have a few grams anyway. It's only 2 gallons of train bull trim fresh frozen and even some larfy buds.

This time I know the water is supposed to do the heavy lifting so no more electrical hand mixer. No more filling the container full of ice. No more putting the bags in backwards. I have a good sprayer and a few buckets to do this properly. If I can find a few extra 1 gallon buckets(I wish I hadn't thrown out all the ones I drilled holes in smh) This way I could do the Frenchie cannoli method and have a plastic ring for each bag. That would be ideal but it probably won't be a reality this time around.

Any tips welcome. It's only my second time doing this. I will want to grow a hash plant (probably from Ethos) and wash a whole plant. Maybe in the spring🤔 IDK. So many ideas, projects and experiments.....I need a castle and a half to for all my ideas.

[Gingerbeard]

Nifty! As of this morning, my new bags are in Knoxville. This weekend I'll be ice watering 5 ounces that are sitting in the freezer.

[No3odiesShad0w]

I've been making ice cubes all day today. I'm not gonna need that much but I rather have too many than too little. I'm gonna wash the bud trim 2x. I think 2x 1 gallon bags full should be plenty.

[Gingerbeard]

HA!!! Put my first one in just before reading yours. My tap water sucks and am going with vending machine.

[No3odiesShad0w]

I have a good water filter and the city water is one of the better ones in the country. I used to get water from the machine when i lived in New Mexico. The tap water would destroy your water filter in a month.

[golfnrl]

I just used my handy dandy BubbleBagDude bubble hash maker last week. Did the standard three washes as the directions all for. Used all the bags. I have all of this hash but what to do with it? What's the best way to partake? a bong and a torch? Do I just walk into the smoke shop and announce I'm there to buy a hash smoking rig? Can you help a brother out?

[No3odiesShad0w]

I toss it into my vape and enjoy all the delicious tastes it has to offer.

[Gingerbeard]

You've never smoked hash??? Oh, how exciting!!!
If you have collected from the machine, you have kief. Hash is kief that is heated and pressed. And kief ain't nothing but trichomes. But hash is pretty much the vernacular.
However, you can use them the same. Spike a joint. Top a bowl. Alone in a bowl. Decarb for edibles. Press it for rosin. Send it to your friendly neighborhood Gingerbeard.
And crank Hash Pipe (youtube.com)

[No3odiesShad0w]

Next toy I get will be a rosin press.

[Rwise]

Hash under glass!

[No3odiesShad0w]

I can probably use my glasses🤣🤣🤣 that glass so thick

[Bluey]

You can put a bit of tin foil over your bong cone with a few tiny pin holes in it and rest a match head size bit of hash on that. Once it starts to smoke, suck.

[No3odiesShad0w]

I have bangers and all kinds of glass attachments for me bongs. I still prefer the vape. Once you put an actual flame to the product, you just get inundated with burnt taste and smell. With the vape, you get so many interesting flavors. For example, my best friend bought me moonrocks for my birthday back in January. Got so high and it tasted like banana bread or dates while smoking. Coolest experience. I don't even like joints anymore. Just tastes like burnt.

[golfnrl]

No3odiesShad0w I'm guessing that's a flower vape? I have a S&B Crafty but rarely use it. Would that work with the bubble hash?

[No3odiesShad0w]

I would use some cheaper glassware for hash because it might leave some black residue which might be annoying to clean.. So I definitely wouldn't use your best bangor if you're going to smoke hash out of it and then later use it for dabs. Maybe have one specifically for hash and one for dabs if possible

[No3odiesShad0w]

I got my buckets for the hash to do it the Frenchi Cannoli way. This weekend when my buddy comes over, he'll give me a hand (because humans didn't involve to have four hands which would be super helpful). I have a chapin, I'll fill it with filtered iced water for the side spraying and getting the hash to the center of the bag. This way I can use all filtered clean water. I have a sink sprayer but I don't trust that chlorinated water. I have ice cubes all frozen up. I have my trim all ready. Should be a good one!

[Gingerbeard]

Nnnnnooooooooo.... Do not dab hash!!! It's naaaasssty!!! Dabbing even a small amount of hash smells worse than smoking a bowl.
If you dab hash, don't talk to me.

[No3odiesShad0w]

Eww no that's why I said you need a separate glass piece. Unless you're going to smoke pressed bubble hash(with a rosin press) then I don't see why you can't dab it but traditional hash no way.

[Gingerbeard]

No, sorry. Just reiterating your point.
Hash is weed and should be consumed as such unless pressed and cold cured.

[Gingerbeard]

... I will accept hot cured.

[Gingerbeard]

UPS gave me my bags a day earlier than expected. Three cheers.
Been nurturing all my gingerated hatred about this IWH thing. Fork load of mess and equipment. More water than I planned for. My kitchen is getting smaller, it seems.
My math is off, it also seems. 3/4 gallons of water for washing in the 220 bag. That strains to the next bag and water is used to wash the inside of each successive bag to work the trichomes. By the time you get to the 25 bag, there is more than a gallon of water.
The kicker for my hate was seeing only the few grams drying on the coffee filters. I don't know what it's going to be, but I went in with a humble 10-gram hope for return. I might have three. Man, the hate! Then I realized I was not working with 150 grams of ground primo, but 150 grams of trim, larf, and popcorn. Whatever return I get is good for being trim, but I want more for the work, damnit!
Pictures... later.
Cold cure rosin is the shizz-bang and I want to make it. I'm putting it on my wanna-do list.

[No3odiesShad0w]

I'm hoping to do a Christmas wash of all the un smoked stuff from the season to make room for fresh stuff. We'll see how much I have left over for that wash.

I took will be doing larf so if I can get a solid gram, I'll consider it a success. Maybe I'll be surprised. There's some thick lines of sand at the bottom of those bags. At the end of the day, I need the practice and trim is perfect for that. I don't want to put good bud in and tosh up the whole process.

[No3odiesShad0w]

First 2 washes of 1gal of trim. I still have 1 more gallon of trim 😱😱😱😱. There's like 2-3g there easy. I just can't believe the quantity.... And that wasn't even the good trim..... So hype! It's going so well!

[Allenpro]

I have extracted Keif in a couple of different ways, I used the bubble bags and even bought a small washer to put them in. Try the dry ice method and you will never go back, so much easier less mess and no risk of mold. Now I use the washer for mixing nutrients and that works well.

[hukaraptor]

I did the dry ice (I have easy, free, unlimited access) and it worked so smoothly. I made it with fresh trim.

I did run into a problem in that I stored it in my fridge soon there after. I came back from traveling and it grew mold Fun while it last tho.

mahalo

[Allenpro]

Is that keif or trim? I bought a sifter and I store keif in the fridge with no problems so far and some of it has been in there for over a year

[No3odiesShad0w]

The first time I stored my hash in the fridge, I too, got mold. This time it went right into my Cannatrol

[No3odiesShad0w]

Yooooooooo!!!!!!! 35g!!!!?????!!!!???
Granted it's wet but I squeezed a lot of that water out. I can be sure that it's not 30g of water and only 5g of hash.

Waaaaaay more bubble hash than I expected. I was gonna be happy off of a gram.... Multiply the happiness by 30 😉🙏😁

[No3odiesShad0w]

Popped it into the Cannatrol to dry for the next few days. Probably just going to keep the 3 grades separate. 120 micron, 73 micron and 25 micron. The washed bud goes right into the worm bin. My buddy said how would you feel if one day you're just in your house minding your own business and somebody comes and just dumps a bunch of weed on you? My response, "Very Happy!!"

[No3odiesShad0w]

So after it dries....I need to grind it up again and then what press it with heat right? Or can I store it as is? I know I won't get mold in the Cannatrol but I also want to preserve it nicely. I know about temple balls. Maybe I'll just make those

[Gingerbeard]

No idea. Sometimes mine dries back to kief. This time it is staying taffy. I've been pulling and working it to try to get it to dry.

[No3odiesShad0w]

Gingerbeard yes mine is at the taffy stage. I'm guessing there's still some moisture in there but it's also an oil so it should be sticky taffy like. I think we need to freeze it and grind it on a frozen zester.

[No3odiesShad0w]

The bubble hash has been in the Cannatrol for over 24hrs. It's gummy in texture. It's got a darker oxidized layer on the outside and a lighter color on the inside if I break it open.

I guess my next step is to let it dry some more, then freeze it, grind it back into powder and then press it? But obviously not with a press. I'm going to have to use some autoclave bags and a glass bottle with hot water inside. Get it rolled up into Temple balls..... The problem is I don't want to lose that golden ish color any more than I have already. If I press it with a hot bottle it's all going to oxidize and turn a dark brown. Which is traditional hash but with more science, we know there's better ways of preserving it.

Just trying to weigh my options and figure out the best way forward.

[No3odiesShad0w]

Okay since I can't freeze dry my hash, I have no choice but going the oxidized route. Any air drying, even in the Cannatrol which is air drying, will result in a darker color.
I think I should just be able to work this material into a ball and it should get an external casing to lock all the goodness in. Kinda what's been happening. The water activity level has dropped to at least 0.68 so mold won't grow on it. Maybe I'll process one by freezing and grinding it up and the other just pressing it as it is and see what comes out better. I'm sure I'll be making more hash by next spring with how many plants I have growing.

[Gingerbeard]

I let my taffy sit for a couple days. No freezing or grinding or pressing or such. The taffy has turned back into powdery kief. Freezing and grinding and all that busywork speeds up drying but is unnecessary, I'm finding.
Oxidation happens. Stupid oxygen. But isn't oxidizing also called curing in the weed world?

[Bluey]

Yes. Curing it is

[No3odiesShad0w]

It is to be debated how much oxidation is needed/wanted. Look at the tea world. It's all tea but depending how it's oxidized will determine the color of the tea as well as flavor intensity. Same with tobacco curing. Maybe we want some oxidation but how much is the optimal amount to really make the product shine. Because let's remember purity doesn't equal quality. I hate thc diamonds. So expensive for paranoia in a bowl. The terpenes and processing for preservation also adds to the complexity of those flavors.