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    #16
    Coco is notorious for mag deficiency issues. Add in LED lighting and it multiplies. The pH looks fine to me. I don't think a .3 difference in pH is going to do much if your showing 6.2 going in/out.

    To me it looks like more of an imbalance than a deficiency. The dark green leaves look like N tox but the brown spots and yellowing look like mag def.

    I would back the light off some and do clear water feeds for the next few feeds to see if it clears up the imbalance.

    Here's a mulders chart to help going forward with imbalance issues. As you can see, too much calcium pretty much interferes with availability of most everything else.

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      That's a good chart thanks

    #17
    One more chart that also might help with diagnosis.....

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      Need a better resolution. When you zoom in you can't even read what it says much less see the pictures

    #18
    Just to be even more annoyed. ALL the seeds I planted from FastBuds all 6 of them. Garbage. They're a month old and 6 inches tall with red stems stunted growth.... Complete failure....I never had issues with germination and veg.... What was different this time? Kelp meal. I never added kelp meal in the past this was my first time using it. Every plant I put it into did very poorly. The ones I didn't add it to were fine. Coincidence?

    Then work my father's plant..... He's growing it in a gallon of soil and it's all fine. Not a single red stem. But mine got red stems and red stalk and everything. i don't get it.....I just don't get it. The guy that don't know what he's doing is doing better at something that I've spent hundred of hours watching videos and reading books and failing for 3 years(if I don't count the one blue dream from 2 years ago and the bubble gum, amnesia haze and Bruce banner those were actually successful). But in between those 5 plants there's been 20 of 30 that all failed for literally exactly the same reason.

    I follow exactly down to the period what this person or that person is doing and can NEVER replicate it. I don't understand how ppl use Fox Farm soil and don't get acidity issues. My soil goes to like 4.0ph. While everyone else like " oh Fox farm the best" and they get these great results.
    Tried Coco and still same problem different medium. Still red stems everywhere and spotted dying. It's gotta be the nutrition line. For once I know for a fact it's not the pH. Going in and comes out the same or off by only 0.1. Not like with the Fox farm where I put in 8.0 water and get 4.8 runoff.

    I just don't understand how each and every one of the FastBuds is doing so poorly. It's gotta be the kelp meal
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    🪴 Grape Balls of Fire (Ethos Genetics) *photo
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      Germination and veg was always smooth sailing but not this time..... Everything just going wrong

    #19
    I have good castings, I have cal mag without nitrogen and I got the Gaia green to go with it. The rest of the NLS I have, I guess I can use for teas and microbes. But first I want to give the Gaia green a chance and see what happens.
    Peace. Love. Mushrooms and Weed.
    ☮️❤️🍄🍁🪱
    Current grows:

    🪴 Blue Dream x MAC1 (Blimburn original)*photo. First crossing attempt
    🪴 2x End Game #5 x Grandpa's Stash #6 (Ethos)*photo
    (The Uncle Grandpa)
    🪴 Lilac Diesel Rbx2 (Ethos Genetics) *autoflower
    🪴 Grape Balls of Fire (Ethos Genetics) *photo
    🪴 Mandarin Zkittlez (Ethos Genetics) *photo


    🪱 Vermihut worm bin
    🫖 Black Tea Kombucha (Fermentaholics SCOBY)

    Time Lapse Videos
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      #20
      I've been using a vertical germinator for seed pops and have, so far, had 100% success. I also noticed the plants seem to be a little hardier when I germinate this way. Here's an explanation of the benefits of vertical germ.

      (3) This is Vertical Germination | Bud Builders - Making Friends, Growing Cannabis

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      • No3odiesShad0w
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        I've never had an issue with germination until I started sprinkling in kelp meal to my starter soil. That's when germination issues started.... Before then I just pop them in the soil after soaking in water for 12 hours and nearly 100% success. Still haven't lost any seedlings I grew but they just seemed to be instantly stunted. Normally when I take the two cups apart you could see big fat giant roots but the roots on these look like thin filaments of hair. They did not look healthy. So I'm just not gonna use any kelp meal. IDK what all the hype is about it. Doesn't seem to do anything positive. When I do just soil and castings they take off like a rocket...add kelp and I got 6 plants a month old barely 6inches tall but the freebies seed turned into a monster and that one didn't have any kelp meal

      #21
      Seems like I traded nitrogen toxicity for a call mag deficiency this is exactly why I avoided growing in coco for so long but I was so fed up with the moss based stuff and always being away like 5.0 pH now my pH is nice and stable for once so I get everything else

      The plan is to double buffer the shit canna coco that's supposed to be buffered already..... Make sure that's all good and build whole new soil with the build a soil castings and use the cal mag without the nitrogen going forward.

      I can't do nothing about the damage done. It's not repairable. But all the fast buds seeds I planted are all going in the trash. They're just here now so I can figure shit out until I need the space

      What other option do I have. Go back to moss based soil and just be tortured by low pH issues constantly? I had 3 years of that. That's why I hope the Coco can work. I saw how explosive the growth can be when it's going right.
      Last edited by No3odiesShad0w; 09-27-2023, 10:09 PM.
      Peace. Love. Mushrooms and Weed.
      ☮️❤️🍄🍁🪱
      Current grows:

      🪴 Blue Dream x MAC1 (Blimburn original)*photo. First crossing attempt
      🪴 2x End Game #5 x Grandpa's Stash #6 (Ethos)*photo
      (The Uncle Grandpa)
      🪴 Lilac Diesel Rbx2 (Ethos Genetics) *autoflower
      🪴 Grape Balls of Fire (Ethos Genetics) *photo
      🪴 Mandarin Zkittlez (Ethos Genetics) *photo


      🪱 Vermihut worm bin
      🫖 Black Tea Kombucha (Fermentaholics SCOBY)

      Time Lapse Videos
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        #22
        Use this chart to time your feed ratios.....

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          #23
          You can check the main page where I was documenting the growth. https://forum.growweedeasy.com/forum...enty-of-firsts

          It was going too well. And I mentioned it a few times in the posts that's it's going suspiciously smoothly. And I was right. And exactly the problem I hoped to avoid... And it's avoidable just need to do extra work. Got the right nutrients that I need to work with the nutrient lines in trying to use. It should go better this time. Also not growing autos. Going back to photos. All my best grows were photos. All my problem children were autos.
          Peace. Love. Mushrooms and Weed.
          ☮️❤️🍄🍁🪱
          Current grows:

          🪴 Blue Dream x MAC1 (Blimburn original)*photo. First crossing attempt
          🪴 2x End Game #5 x Grandpa's Stash #6 (Ethos)*photo
          (The Uncle Grandpa)
          🪴 Lilac Diesel Rbx2 (Ethos Genetics) *autoflower
          🪴 Grape Balls of Fire (Ethos Genetics) *photo
          🪴 Mandarin Zkittlez (Ethos Genetics) *photo


          🪱 Vermihut worm bin
          🫖 Black Tea Kombucha (Fermentaholics SCOBY)

          Time Lapse Videos
          http://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/e4y68f...iewiwrtbp&dl=0

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            #24
            Try not to complicate your nutrients. I use A & B base with Hormex, CaliMagic, Armor Si. This is the first time I've used Armor Si. I've used ProTekt for the most part. I don't use bloom boosters or molasses or any of that stuff. Tried them all and didn't see much improvement in terms of flower quality or size.

            As long as you feed them the right ions at the right time you shouldn't need boosters. The graph I posted previously works great!

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              #25
              I want to grow more stuff like this..... Seeing this makes me happy. I can't wait to smoke it. Just started second week of cure. It will be ready for a sample early October but omgl it smells so good. Drool every time I have to burp the containers
              Peace. Love. Mushrooms and Weed.
              ☮️❤️🍄🍁🪱
              Current grows:

              🪴 Blue Dream x MAC1 (Blimburn original)*photo. First crossing attempt
              🪴 2x End Game #5 x Grandpa's Stash #6 (Ethos)*photo
              (The Uncle Grandpa)
              🪴 Lilac Diesel Rbx2 (Ethos Genetics) *autoflower
              🪴 Grape Balls of Fire (Ethos Genetics) *photo
              🪴 Mandarin Zkittlez (Ethos Genetics) *photo


              🪱 Vermihut worm bin
              🫖 Black Tea Kombucha (Fermentaholics SCOBY)

              Time Lapse Videos
              http://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/e4y68f...iewiwrtbp&dl=0

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                #26
                First and foremost a question. After buffering the Coco, can I let it dry out so I can store it or will it loose its buffering because it goes dry?

                I've always noticed they prepped stuff is kinda most bit not wet when coming out of the bag. Just wondering if it's the same thing like when it dries out the pH swings wildly but then it's restored when wet again.

                There's still hope. It seems like the progression of the cal mag deficiency has stopped..... hard to tell because I'm color blind but it also looks like it greened up a bit. Before the leaves are looking really yellow going on brown but now it looks like it's got some green in between all the brown and black spots. I noticed an uptick in flower growth again. I'm really hoping it's on an up swing. Still got over half the bloom left. It's not gonna be 5oz but man it smells good and looks so frosty already.
                Since switching to TPS cal mag, it seems like it did the trick. Not loading it with nitrogen especially during bloom.

                Also I flushed and buffered 5 gallons of Coco. I used 4 gallons of water added 10ml/ gallon of GH Calimagic. I left it soaking for 24 hours.... Mostly because I was too lazy to do it before work. Just gonna leave it in the shower to drain and I guess it's ready to be used. I can't imagine I would need to buffer a second time for "pre buffered" material. I won't be using it for some time. If I need to, I'll buffer it once more time before I use it. I just wanted to see how annoying our easy this would be. And it's not terrible but just like everything else in this tiny apt, the bathroom is tiny too. But it's not the worst thing. I guess I imagined it too be messier.

                Peace. Love. Mushrooms and Weed.
                ☮️❤️🍄🍁🪱
                Current grows:

                🪴 Blue Dream x MAC1 (Blimburn original)*photo. First crossing attempt
                🪴 2x End Game #5 x Grandpa's Stash #6 (Ethos)*photo
                (The Uncle Grandpa)
                🪴 Lilac Diesel Rbx2 (Ethos Genetics) *autoflower
                🪴 Grape Balls of Fire (Ethos Genetics) *photo
                🪴 Mandarin Zkittlez (Ethos Genetics) *photo


                🪱 Vermihut worm bin
                🫖 Black Tea Kombucha (Fermentaholics SCOBY)

                Time Lapse Videos
                http://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/e4y68f...iewiwrtbp&dl=0

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