Clones dying?

[johnb1963]

Hello my friends, My son bought me two clones at the weed store last friday. I planted them in my usual soil mix, but there are not going well. I just can't figure out what the heck is going wrong this year? I have a humidifier in the grow room set at 55%, inside the tent fluctuates. i have seem it at 60% and as low as 35%. other than that, i don't know whats up? any thoughts / advise?

[SoOrbudgal]

Morning johnb1963 my clones will struggle to grow deeper roots if the room temp is too cool. I grow my clones under a CFL and keep a clear dome on top for humidity till i see new growth. Takes abit longer in winter to root clones i've found out, temps play a huge role. Good luck they just need time and warmth after a couple weeks i remove the domes an give them a very light taste of growth fert best of luck.

[Franklin]

I've found that misting with worm compost leachate until they have roots really helps things move along positively

[SoOrbudgal]

Yep worm compost or bat quano tea they love

[johnb1963]

Thanks guys, I will try misting and a dome and keep you posted

[Blowdout2269]

I agree with what SoOrbudgal says. That's basically how I do it. I've never sprayed with a tea though, just pH'd water. And I always spray the underside of the propigator dome.
I wouldn't worry to much. Most clones look rough at first.

[johnb1963]

Hello my friends. Well I have had these girls u.der a dome, misted them, done everything I could think of and they are not getting better. So today I transplanted them into fabric pots. I wanted to see if there was any root growth and to my surprise there was! Lots of nice white healthy looking roots. So what the hell is wrong?

[ChubbNugg]

It looks like nute lockout. I would double fripple ripple check the Ph over an over, to rule out what I find to be the number one problem from my experience. If you look closely at the soil in the previous photos, It looks like there may be some salt burn on the perlite/vermiculite. That"s when the white particles turn brown on top. The second set of photos of the grow bags do not show that brown burnt look in the white stuff. I always wanted to do a comparison of the run off water from a pot with the brown perlite vs one that don't. Haven't got to it yet. I have seen the brown junk rinse off with just plain water, but I always flushed that stuff all the way out.

[johnb1963]

hello ChubbHugg, i was misting the plants, and used a light dose of foliage nutes. so I think thats why the perlite turned color. i will definitely double check the PH. these days i rarely check it, i use tap water and know exactly how much PH down per gallon to add, that gets me at 6.5.
thanks for the input, and happy holidays!

[ChubbNugg]

My tap water fluctuates. My tap water also has a few very interesting avenues to follow. The properties of our tap water are always changing. At the slightest sign of a color change in the plant, Dag gum check that run off! 90% of the time this is the start. Once Ph runoff is corrected, Bada Bing!

[Thebeginning1989]

Mind me asking of what your usual soil mix consists? Sorry if I missed it somewhere.

[johnb1963]

hi 1989, sure, i mix fox farms ocean forest and happy frog, 50/50, then add 30% organic perlite. then fill my 5 gal fabric pots. i typically grow from seeds, but my son gave me these two clones. i have made my own clones, the last two years, never had any problems. my green thumbs are no loner green, lol.

[Thebeginning1989]

Curious as to what the issue can be as well. I also use fox farms, 2:1:1, ocean forest, happy frog, perlite. You should definitely have all the nutrients covered, and your first post was over 11 days ago which would imply if dormant microbes were the issue because of dry soil that issue would now be gone. That is why I am inclined to agree with ChubbNugg. The nutrients are there, but for some reason the plants are still missing something, and not just one of the plants. Following this post for sure!

[johnb1963]

i getting a new PH pen today, and i'll do a run-off test!

[ChubbNugg]

Sounds like a good idea. I would be very interested in your experience and findings with the Ph pen. This is getting interesting fast now.

[johnb1963]

so I ph'd my water to 6.5, watered my plants, came back about 10 mins later, and the run-of was 6.5, and the PPM was 1012. new soil so its Hot. lets see how they look in a couple days. pics to follow.

[ChubbNugg]

I got ma fingers crossed for ya. Please Please Baby Weed Jesus. Let em Live!

[johnb1963]

Amen brother!

[HolyHippie]

Yo so did the CLone Live.... three days later....

[ChubbNugg]

Yeah,, wha happened?