Colloidal silver to force a male- is this what is supposed to happen?

[VaF]

I have never planted an automatic... only regulars for 30 YEARS! even feminized ones it's not my Kiff! I find it very good and daring... but against the culture. An IBL is for me a beautiful strain... a plant crossed with chemicals, I don't use any. there is enough crap in fertilizers and other bullshit without adding unnecessary and toxic chemical transformations. But I recognize that you have to be motivated LOL! I would prefer to see a work from pure LANDRACES rather than cheap Chemistry... but you are right to try!!! I will not smoke your Weed!!! not even in dreams!!!
As a medical user, I ONLY use pure strains if I can... never chemical or automatic shit. Also out of respect for the former cultivators. I lived 4 years in Laos and planting there... I will never plant crap. Out of respect for these people with whom I learned... in the West or the USA it's Carnival in Rio!!! Lots of hybrids tampered with for nothing on arrival.

[Ace1973]

never had a problem with collodial silver, I have thousands of seeds from the process. Good work and what a wonderful pay off in the long run.

[VaF]

very nice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[SoOrbudgal]

Great job Ckbrew you sure nailed it

[User420111]

I tried colloidal silver once, I sprayed it from the time I started the 12/12 cycle to about 6 weeks into flower. Amazingly, the plant (feminized seed) never did anything. Never grew a single hair, never produced a single pollen sack. Nothing. I mean NOTHING. It just sat there doing that the entire time while all the other plants sexed out and produced bud. Eventually the leaves just curled up and got all weird looking like I had been spraying them with the stuff that the toxic avenger got dunked into.

Never read any sort of experience similar to that. So I'm skeptical ruining my plants and wasting so much money on CS again. But I know it works, I can see the results. I don't know, I got a mutant or something.

[Ckbrew]

Thank you Grouchy

[grouchyoldman]

Hey CK, you are on the right track in stripping most of those extra branches. It only takes a branch or two to produce plenty of pollen. One proven technique is to wait for the first flowers to burst then put a few cut branches in a wide mouth jar filled with water. Lean them over a sheet of parchment paper to collect the Gold Dust. Best to keep the in a closed room during the pollen drop so as not to spread it around. After a week or two, collect the pollen off the paper, put it through a sieve to remove any plant material then store the pollen in the freezer until you need it. It should be viable for at least six months. Water deactivates the pollen, so hose yourself down, change clothes etc. before going back into your grow room.

[90Gizmo]

I read something about putting a bag over the plant, wrapping around the stalk and turning it over and shaking. I don't know if anything I read is for real. I'm just thinking it's something I don't want to do twice or at least very often.

[Ckbrew]

I could, I just don't want it all over the place and me, then get contamination in the main room.

[90Gizmo]

I wonder if you can save the unneeded pollen?

[Ckbrew]

Week 3 bloom, day 6


I think I sent it a little to hard. Here is the pollen maker. It didn't show well in the pix, but over night this has exploded with unripe male flowers. There are 12 branches plus the center stalk, and each branch averages 5 flower clusters, and each cluster I would guess has 30 flowers, that is near 2000 little pollen flowers coming. I only need to pollinate one plant, not a whole forest. I'm getting the feeling like when you were a kid and made all the gunpowder, then realized what you did and didn't want to go near it, know what I mean?

I was thinking of striping off about 80% of these clusters and leaving just enough for the one plant I need. Good idea or bad?

[Ckbrew]

Week 3 bloom, day 5


I have been spraying almost all of the plant buds and not the big fan leaves. It is starting to look like a male.
BTW- This plant has had NO topping of any kind. This is what they look like un-topped and untrained.




The good news is, it is a BOY! That usually is not good news but I never did anything in the usual way.
The reason for all this is so this boy can pollinate his sister to get pure mother in seed form, make sense now?

[grouchyoldman]

With the greatest respect and consideration VaF, your comment is incorrect and unhelpful!

I don't pretend to be an expert but reversing auto fem plants to produce pollen is a very common and non-experimental procedure. The pollen produced is viable and hundreds (thousands?) of successful crosses have been created this way.

Collodial Silver, STS and the newer one-shot treatment "Hybri-Tech EliteXElite" spray are all effective when used properly.

When using CS your success will likely depend on the concentration used. The AmaZone has 500ppm. Best advice I've seen with CS is keep spraying daily till you see effects. It is normal to see damage to the foliage after spraying but the plant should recover.

Keep the faith Ckbrew!

[Ckbrew]

UPDATE!

Week 2 bloom, day 7 seed clones


The male pollen maker has been moved back to the nursery to avoid contaminating the rest of the plants.




Some close ups of the "flowers"- They look really stressed out, is this what is supposed to happen? Time will tell what grows out here.


A shot of the mother at the same post flip age, front.

[VaF]

you don't waste your time
it's good to try.. test.. research.. we learn a lot from our mistakes and cannabis is a personal story.
Everyone uses their research as they want ! Do you think trying is essential for you ? = TRY ! otherwise you will be disappointed afterwards... LOL !
it is impossible for you to find the same genetics in regular to find 1 male ? I understand the approach... and respect it... a big motivation is necessary for each genetic creation. Whether natural or chemical.
I did a lot of cross but always in regular. Only regular... Never chemistery with my cannabis... and nothing will guarantee a pure strain!
Regular ibls are interesting for hybridization. Wasting a lot of time and energy (or money) without knowing, without guarantee, without mastering the process seems random to me.
But it is interesting for oneself to try... For me, something worthwhile is not F1 or S1 but indeed genetics working naturally over years without 43 phenotypes in it!!! lol!
I hope your attempt is a success!!!