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    Nutes after defoliation

    After an early flower stage defoliation, is it a good idea or nonconsequential to give a shot of veg nutes?
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    #2
    Dunno but I can guarantee you it's non denominational.
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    • Gingerbeard
      Gingerbeard commented
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      I wasn't looking to be dominated, wacko!

    #3
    Early flower girls get hungry, feed them something!
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      #4
      Oh, sure. I've got some good flowering stuff ready. I guess there isn't much recovery N would be useful for. Flowering nutes it is TOBone! You better be right, comrade.
      C'mon, mule!

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      • TOKABIGONE
        TOKABIGONE commented
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        I'm always right jinger, you know that!

      #5
      yup...early flower should be lower on the nitrogen and higher on the P & K...defoliating won't change how she takes in nutrients unless you are feeding via foliar spray
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      • Gingerbeard
        Gingerbeard commented
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        I know defoliation isn't about taking more nutes. I always figure recovery time after I do any sort of trimming and wondered if N would be helpful. As you people are helping me think, I'm over it.

      #6
      Never tried it, just fed regular bloom schedule. Why would you want to?
      Don't worry, be happy, grow sticky buds.

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      • Gingerbeard
        Gingerbeard commented
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        Please see post #5.1, CKB.

      #7
      I think it is a good question. I am a soil grower and usually follow a feed-feed-water pattern and I always feed on the day I defoliate even on a water day.. Not sure if it is superstition or science but I always feed when I cut them back and so far it seems like the plants respond really well.

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        #8
        Thanks billyboy . When I mention recovery, I'm talking about all the open wounds after defoliation. Get me? Maybe an extra dose of N with flowering P-K? First nutes after defoliation, only?
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        • billyboy
          billyboy commented
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          I just moved to adding Cha Ching (once a week after Beasite Bloomz in very early flower) and it is 9 - 50 - 10. Not specifically for defoliation but generally to get N better represented in the nute package during flower because I thought there was premature yellowing and I wanted to let the flowers have a longer bloom to get more amber. I never thought specifically about pushing N as a way to heal better from defoliation - I just guessed that if they were fed and healthy, they'd take care of themselves. Maybe Super Glue is the way to go - ? But I never saw any issues/need because they always seem to take off after a good trim

        #9
        Has anyone ever tried super glue to seal cuts or when a split node happens? It works on a cut on your hand. I may try it in a couple days when I chop; just for giggles. I wonder if it would transfer toxins to the plant? Hmmm...
        Grow # 3 50/50 S/I Critical Mass photo fem
        Seeds drop in water 1/8/2022

        Medium: FF Coco Loco plus 30% Perlite in 7 gal cloth bags
        Space: 30x48x62 DIY cabinet lined w/space blankets
        Lighting: Bloomspect SS1000 Quantum board x 3 - 300 watts actual draw
        Soil Supplements: Worm Castings, Crab Shell, Oyster Shell, Neem and Karanja Meal, Volcanic Basalt Dust (for minerals), Recharge root micros. Grow 3 is with reconstituted super soil to which I've added several additional minerals and supplements. A more complete list based on Cackamas Coots super soil recipe can be found in my Auto Toka thread
        i don't grow plants anymore, I grow soil that my plants can thrive in!
        My filtered tap water runs over 7.5 pH but the soil microbes
        make pH correction unnecessary
        Ventilation: Vipospar 4" Exhaust Fan w/RH controller, 12" Carbon Scrubber
        8" bottom intake fan, 6" clip on fan, 6" heater as needed
        Cabinet on screen porch. N AZ @ 4000 ft.

        My salute to all who have served
        Semper Fidelis!

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        • TOKABIGONE
          TOKABIGONE commented
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          Just answered my question with Google. The answer is yes! People are doing it with all kinds of plants. Find a way to brace or hold the wound together for a week and it should be good as new. Ha, a new form of training...Stress with Gorilla Glue! LMAO!

        • Gingerbeard
          Gingerbeard commented
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          In school, we had something called Zap. It's a Superglue accelerant. The moisture in the stem might interfere with slower glue curing? In school, I mean architecture. We bought X-Acto knives by the pound for model making. Bottles of SG were all over the studios.

        • TOKABIGONE
          TOKABIGONE commented
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          IDK, maybe that's why they say a week. Super glue is usually bullet proof in 24 hrs.

        #10
        TOKABIGONE If I brace and hold a wound together, without SG, it will heal in a week.

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        C'mon, mule!

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        • TOKABIGONE
          TOKABIGONE commented
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          Yup yer right! Done it a couple times myself. It was just a curiosity thing so I looked and as I expected it is used often on larger branches like fruit trees when they split from weight.

        #11
        Even in flower, I give a small amount of veg nutes until weeks 4-5 of flower to help keep the leaves green as long as possible

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