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    #46
    Update 22b: 9.8.21 Week 6 Day 1
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    "I can't stop thinking big, I can't stop thinking big. In a world where I feel so small. I can't stop thinking big." Caravan | RUSH
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      #47
      When you say folding, are you bending and tying them down? I have several branches Im trying to figure out what to do with.
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      10 days left before the flip
      Last edited by Smoklahoma; 09-08-2021, 08:57 PM.
      DIY 4x12 Farmacy box w/2 4x4x6 grow areas
      TrolMaster HydroX runs the whole show
      Dual tank Co2 injection w/ rain tubing
      10000 btu thru the wall A/C / 5000 btu heater
      50 pint dehumidifier/ cool mist humidifier
      8" intake fan w/ hepa filter / 8" exhaust fan
      2 Timber Fatty-vs COB 950 watt draw fixtures
      w/ added 4 2ft T5 Pure UV bulbs on each fix.
      2 DIY Hybrid DWC 5 gal bubble bucket systems w/ 55 gal reservoirs w/ PH dosers
      2"x4"cyl.stones in buckets, 8"disk in reservoirs
      GH Flora series (entire line) + Orca
      Photo Grow #2 = Blue Dream and Black Widow

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      • BU2B
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        Wow! Very nice! You have 10 days till bloom - I'm at 21 days. To answer your question; yes, I do fold them out and/or tie them down. Once the girls reach flowering I let them have their way and usually remove all training wire and then re-tie her as she flowers so that she is opened up with light getting to all flowering growth tips. I do a big defoliation again during transition to bloom and then no more defoliation except for the one last major defoliation at week 3 and then just individual leaves that are covering flowering tips or blocking buds. I have multiple reasons for doing a transition to bloom not the least of which is that your plant is undergoing two huge stressful events at the same time; darkness and a major defoliation. A transition to bloom period allows your girls some time to adjust to darkness, create it's first flowers and a chance to bounce back from the big defoliation with minimal stress.

      #48
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      I have a request - just one. IF you use BU2B's PPP method and you find it useful; PLEASE SHARE IT! I will be happy to answer any questions or field any comments but the entire goal here is to get as many people getting as much as is possible out of their plants! It's easy, It doesn't add any extra time to your grow and yes, it WILL allow you to average a Pound Per Plant! So, your state will only allow you four plants? Use BU2B's PPP Method on your indoor grows and change those 4 plants into 4 lbs 3 times a year! You too can be a happy Pharmer!
      Last edited by BU2B; 09-09-2021, 02:15 AM.
      "I can't stop thinking big, I can't stop thinking big. In a world where I feel so small. I can't stop thinking big." Caravan | RUSH
      GWE4ME

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      • Puglover1
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        My Wild Thai is growing as crazy as this month has been going. I'm going to need advice from you or a Sativa soil grower on training her. I can follow a diagram but I have other questions. Later, if I'm awake as late as my usual. Thnx.

      #49
      Update 23: 9.9.21 At Week 6 Day 2 of veg. Each plant is approximately 12inches in diameter and 6 inches tall, with well over 50 flowering growth tips each.
      Banana Kush & Chocolate Mint OG Week 6 Day 2
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      In another 3 weeks the girls will have in excess of 80 flowering tips each at the rate they are growing. 80 is just too many to deal with without doing a scrog grow. There is just no way to effectively spread each plant out enough in a 4x4 tent during flowering with that many flowering growth tips. I do my best not to have more than 60 active flowering growth tips per plant. The week 3 defoliation will include some selective culling of growth tips that are never going to develop fully or that are not at the top of the canopy. I've found that allowing more than 60 flowering branches per plant just means more work trimming smaller bud packets NOT increased bud weight. Anything above 60 growth tips without making it a scrog grow will likely increase your trimming time and decrease your over-all harvest weight. If however you are growing a 4x4 single beastly beauty (like 'some' people) you could effectively double the 60 branch limit with your one monster plant.
      Last edited by BU2B; 09-09-2021, 09:39 PM.
      "I can't stop thinking big, I can't stop thinking big. In a world where I feel so small. I can't stop thinking big." Caravan | RUSH
      GWE4ME

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        #50
        Just wow my brother! You are the Hydro Master beyond doubt! Look at the size of the trunks; got to be at least an inch in diameter or more. There is no doubt in my mind now that hydro can really perform IF you can tend it closely. I'm still sticking to my 'create a soil' program cuz I can get my hands in it, lol!
        Grow # 3 100% Indica Purple Bubba photo fem
        Seeds drop in water 1/2/2022

        Medium: FF Coco Loco plus 30% Perlite in 7 gal cloth bags
        Space: 30x48x62 DIY cabinet lined w/space blankets
        Lighting: Bloomspect SS1000 Quantum board x 3 - 300 watts actual draw
        Soil Supplements: Worm Castings, Crab Shell, Oyster Shell, Neem and Karanja Meal, Volcanic Basalt Dust (for minerals), Recharge root micros. Grow 3 is with reconstituted super soil to which I've added several additional minerals and supplements. A more complete list based on Cackamas Coots super soil recipe can be found in my Auto Toka thread
        i don't grow plants anymore, I grow soil that my plants can thrive in!
        My filtered tap water runs over 7.5 pH but the soil microbes
        make pH correction unnecessary
        Ventilation: Vipospar 4" Exhaust Fan w/RH controller, 12" Carbon Scrubber
        8" bottom intake fan, 6" clip on fan, 6" heater as needed
        Cabinet on screen porch. N AZ @ 4000 ft.

        My salute to all who have served
        Semper Fidelis!

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        • Bowhunterwoody
          Bowhunterwoody commented
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          Funny. Didn't notice the trunks. Your right. Man!!

        #51
        Update 24: 9.11.21 Week 6 Day 4 - The Geometry of Cannabis Cultivation (The Banana Kush is growing in a square and the Chocolate Mint OG is growing in a circle) It's the little things
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        "I can't stop thinking big, I can't stop thinking big. In a world where I feel so small. I can't stop thinking big." Caravan | RUSH
        GWE4ME

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          #52
          Looking good. Don't think I have enough nerves to do hydro again. Too many variables for me now. Always wanted to try Choco mint.

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          • BU2B
            BU2B commented
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            stop by around the christmas/new year holiday -

          #53
          Those plants look so perfect and nice and neat. Mine looks like something from girls gone wild. I'm gonna have to start to transition to flower today or I am going to run out of room. I love the way these are growing with this method. You are THE MAN!
          DIY 4x12 Farmacy box w/2 4x4x6 grow areas
          TrolMaster HydroX runs the whole show
          Dual tank Co2 injection w/ rain tubing
          10000 btu thru the wall A/C / 5000 btu heater
          50 pint dehumidifier/ cool mist humidifier
          8" intake fan w/ hepa filter / 8" exhaust fan
          2 Timber Fatty-vs COB 950 watt draw fixtures
          w/ added 4 2ft T5 Pure UV bulbs on each fix.
          2 DIY Hybrid DWC 5 gal bubble bucket systems w/ 55 gal reservoirs w/ PH dosers
          2"x4"cyl.stones in buckets, 8"disk in reservoirs
          GH Flora series (entire line) + Orca
          Photo Grow #2 = Blue Dream and Black Widow

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            #54
            Update 25: 9.13.21. Photo below is at Week 6 Day 6
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            Last edited by BU2B; 09-13-2021, 11:43 PM.
            "I can't stop thinking big, I can't stop thinking big. In a world where I feel so small. I can't stop thinking big." Caravan | RUSH
            GWE4ME

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            • BU2B
              BU2B commented
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              SoOrbudgal I know, eh? The Banana Kush leaves are packed in like sardines. Choco’s a bit bigger but lankier. However I’ve pulled a few leaves from her as big as my hand. 2 more weeks till transition to bloom. So far, so good…

            • Ckbrew
              Ckbrew commented
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              Amazing growth. Looks like it is getting a bit crowded. When is next defoliation? Do you ever get water droplets forming between the leaves when they are this dense?

            • BU2B
              BU2B commented
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              Ckbrew LOL the crowded part is hopefully yet to come. I've been doing a little defoliation each day, the next big defoliation will happen during transition to bloom which starts in two weeks. Re: water on leaves- Absolutely even here in the desert (one of the reasons I've been doing a little defoliation each day.)

            #55
            Update 25b: 9.14.21
            I’ve tried to ween the Chocolate Mint off of the cal/mag. But she still wants some.
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            Last edited by BU2B; 09-14-2021, 08:35 AM.
            "I can't stop thinking big, I can't stop thinking big. In a world where I feel so small. I can't stop thinking big." Caravan | RUSH
            GWE4ME

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              #56
              Update 26: 9.16.21 Week 7 Day 2 Before and after pics of defoliation and splay out. 5x more leaves removed from the Banana Kush than the Chocolate Mint OG
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              I kid you not... When I'm splaying the girls out I almost always find myself humming "Tie Your Mother Down"
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              Last edited by BU2B; 09-16-2021, 10:55 AM.
              "I can't stop thinking big, I can't stop thinking big. In a world where I feel so small. I can't stop thinking big." Caravan | RUSH
              GWE4ME

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              • SoOrbudgal
                SoOrbudgal commented
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                Hardly tell you took leaf offf LOL but i know you did. Beautifully healthy gals, grow upward an strong little ladies.

              #57
              Looking Fabulous my friend, Fabulous! Ha, you will transition around 9 weeks but Buck is already flowering at 3? I think mine will veg a little more as they are Sativa. I would like a little more height and should get it. Training should slow them a little bit.
              Grow # 3 100% Indica Purple Bubba photo fem
              Seeds drop in water 1/2/2022

              Medium: FF Coco Loco plus 30% Perlite in 7 gal cloth bags
              Space: 30x48x62 DIY cabinet lined w/space blankets
              Lighting: Bloomspect SS1000 Quantum board x 3 - 300 watts actual draw
              Soil Supplements: Worm Castings, Crab Shell, Oyster Shell, Neem and Karanja Meal, Volcanic Basalt Dust (for minerals), Recharge root micros. Grow 3 is with reconstituted super soil to which I've added several additional minerals and supplements. A more complete list based on Cackamas Coots super soil recipe can be found in my Auto Toka thread
              i don't grow plants anymore, I grow soil that my plants can thrive in!
              My filtered tap water runs over 7.5 pH but the soil microbes
              make pH correction unnecessary
              Ventilation: Vipospar 4" Exhaust Fan w/RH controller, 12" Carbon Scrubber
              8" bottom intake fan, 6" clip on fan, 6" heater as needed
              Cabinet on screen porch. N AZ @ 4000 ft.

              My salute to all who have served
              Semper Fidelis!

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                #58
                Update 26b: 9.17.21 Week 7 Day 3 - Keeping the canopy even (a three pic photo upgrade as of this morning.)
                Both Girls - Banana Kush on the left, Chocolate Mint OG right
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                "I can't stop thinking big, I can't stop thinking big. In a world where I feel so small. I can't stop thinking big." Caravan | RUSH
                GWE4ME

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                • BU2B
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                  Update - I just did a quick count... For the Chocolate Mint OG I quit counting after 80. And that's too many... culling is coming up. I'd say cuttings if I didn't already have other plans for the next grow other than more BK and CMOG

                • Ckbrew
                  Ckbrew commented
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                  Folding like u would do in super cropping?

                • BU2B
                  BU2B commented
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                  Folding like u would do in super cropping?
                  Not to that extreme. Just folding them over, no crease or knot. But if you were going to super-crop, this would be a good stage to do so. I know some who have super-cropped much later, up to 3 weeks into flowering. But I'm not that brave. I've found that if you wait until the stretch happens to super-crop 'many, many' strains will develop hollow stems to help support the weight of the coming flowers. I think that I only super-crop 50% of the time (and that's being generous in favor of super-cropping). I find most of my plants don't 'need' to be super-cropped, but that hasn't stopped me yet. lol
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                #59
                Update 27b: 9.19.21 (Same information, hopefully better photo's after a little more defoliation)
                Both girls are progressing right on schedule and SO FAR there have been no major issues or big problems that have left me scratching my head wondering what to do next. Due to this; I'm able to focus a bit more on the grow and not the issues related with it. In regard to keeping the canopy level, I'm sure there are a multitude of great reasons why indoor growers should quickly acquire the skill; but here are my top few:
                • It spreads your plant out and that is essential with flowering coming up.
                • It allows all growth tips to get light evenly (something only required with indoor growing)
                • It exposes growth tips just under the canopy so that they can grow up to the same height as the canopy
                • Folding over your plant at this point can also result in MORE growth tips and hence more bud packets
                Here are a few photo examples from this grow, taken this morning:
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                "I can't stop thinking big, I can't stop thinking big. In a world where I feel so small. I can't stop thinking big." Caravan | RUSH
                GWE4ME

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                  #60

                  Update 28: 9.22.21

                  Week 8 Day 1. 1 more week until I start changing the Light schedule. The girls got a fresh tub with transition to bloom nutes and a little cal/mag to keep Choco happy. The tub liquid levels are 5 inches below the top of of the lids. With a 2 inch net pot that means the roots are out of the water for 3 inches.
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                  "I can't stop thinking big, I can't stop thinking big. In a world where I feel so small. I can't stop thinking big." Caravan | RUSH
                  GWE4ME

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