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    Lower Budsites in Manifold - Remove or Not?

    Trying to decide if I should remove these lower bud sites to encourage more growth in the 12 original cola tops established by my manifold. Which would give the most yield? 12 colas alone or with many smaller ones? Not like it's a SOG cuz there's only one root ball, right? Thanks for you best opinions!

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    Grow # 3 50/50 S/I Critical Mass photo fem
    Seeds drop in water 1/8/2022

    Medium: FF Coco Loco plus 30% Perlite in 7 gal cloth bags
    Space: 30x48x62 DIY cabinet lined w/space blankets
    Lighting: Bloomspect SS1000 Quantum board x 3 - 300 watts actual draw
    Soil Supplements: Worm Castings, Crab Shell, Oyster Shell, Neem and Karanja Meal, Volcanic Basalt Dust (for minerals), Recharge root micros. Grow 3 is with reconstituted super soil to which I've added several additional minerals and supplements. A more complete list based on Cackamas Coots super soil recipe can be found in my Auto Toka thread
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    #2
    Personally I think the extra leaves help with growth but I remove it once the mains turn up and start shadowing the lower stuff once it's in shade it won't help anymore. Here's a couple pics of how mine progress. These are the same day before n after
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      #3
      Leave them. That's what grows into colas. I have been making the mistake of removing most of them and I hurt my yields by doing it. Once they get to the size you want them, then I would look at removing a few nodes here and there. I just tied mine again and they're coming along nicely. Should be done growing them wide in a week or 2 and then I can work on height. I tried to group the pictures together, there's 2 pictures of 2 different plants. Been removing the big fan leaves as they grow to focus more energy to the bud sites and help promote faster growth. Seems to be working pretty well so far. They look good though, I wish mine were that big already.
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        #4
        You're coming along nicely, the hardest part is to relax and be patient I think. You are a bit tied up with twisty wire I see. I had a few ft of 14ga electric wire left over from a project so I bent a small hook on one end and just pushed them into the coco where I wanted them to go. Worked well. The pic is 3 weeks ago.

        I'm thinking where there are two tips at a node, I will remove the smaller one so the bigger gets more juice and room. Have to think about it a couple more days.


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        Grow # 3 50/50 S/I Critical Mass photo fem
        Seeds drop in water 1/8/2022

        Medium: FF Coco Loco plus 30% Perlite in 7 gal cloth bags
        Space: 30x48x62 DIY cabinet lined w/space blankets
        Lighting: Bloomspect SS1000 Quantum board x 3 - 300 watts actual draw
        Soil Supplements: Worm Castings, Crab Shell, Oyster Shell, Neem and Karanja Meal, Volcanic Basalt Dust (for minerals), Recharge root micros. Grow 3 is with reconstituted super soil to which I've added several additional minerals and supplements. A more complete list based on Cackamas Coots super soil recipe can be found in my Auto Toka thread
        i don't grow plants anymore, I grow soil that my plants can thrive in!
        My filtered tap water runs over 7.5 pH but the soil microbes
        make pH correction unnecessary
        Ventilation: Vipospar 4" Exhaust Fan w/RH controller, 12" Carbon Scrubber
        8" bottom intake fan, 6" clip on fan, 6" heater as needed
        Cabinet on screen porch. N AZ @ 4000 ft.

        My salute to all who have served
        Semper Fidelis!

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          #5
          Anyone else have thoughts on this?
          Grow # 3 50/50 S/I Critical Mass photo fem
          Seeds drop in water 1/8/2022

          Medium: FF Coco Loco plus 30% Perlite in 7 gal cloth bags
          Space: 30x48x62 DIY cabinet lined w/space blankets
          Lighting: Bloomspect SS1000 Quantum board x 3 - 300 watts actual draw
          Soil Supplements: Worm Castings, Crab Shell, Oyster Shell, Neem and Karanja Meal, Volcanic Basalt Dust (for minerals), Recharge root micros. Grow 3 is with reconstituted super soil to which I've added several additional minerals and supplements. A more complete list based on Cackamas Coots super soil recipe can be found in my Auto Toka thread
          i don't grow plants anymore, I grow soil that my plants can thrive in!
          My filtered tap water runs over 7.5 pH but the soil microbes
          make pH correction unnecessary
          Ventilation: Vipospar 4" Exhaust Fan w/RH controller, 12" Carbon Scrubber
          8" bottom intake fan, 6" clip on fan, 6" heater as needed
          Cabinet on screen porch. N AZ @ 4000 ft.

          My salute to all who have served
          Semper Fidelis!

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            #6
            It all depends on what you are trying to do. Fewer n bigger colas, or multiple n smaller. Look at the plant and see what does n does not get light. No light, trim it. Listen to the plants. They will tell you what is best for what you want. Then go with the flow.
            Don't worry, be happy, grow sticky buds.

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              #7
              Is that crushed stone under your bags? What is the story with that?
              Don't worry, be happy, grow sticky buds.

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              • TOKABIGONE
                TOKABIGONE commented
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                It's pea gravel to allow drainage and air under the bags. I have a tray from an old wire dog cage slightly elevated in the back so runoff comes to the front and I soak it up with a towel to remove it. I have an inch of gravel in the bottom of the bags too.

                My original manifold is 12 tops per plant which I trained out to the edge and now growing upward. The lower or center bud sites I will trim selectively the ones that come into shadow. Switching next week at 11 weeks veg.

                The one on the left I defoled more heavily to see what it would do. It is now growing a little slower than the other 2 so I'll just let them go for now and carefully remove fan leaves as needed to restrict shade.

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