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    I'm struggling with what looks like a calcium deficiency in my "just add water" setup. I think this is because I didn't realize I was using de-mineralized water, not spring water, which is what I thought it was. Doooh! I've since been searching for a source of spring water or even just mineralized water with a Ph between 6.3 and 7.0. So far I've come up empty handed. The closest I could find was a supplier in a nearby town who sells "mineral water" with a Ph of 7.1. In the mean time I picked up a Ph pen and I've been using tap water with a natural Ph down from Blue Sky Organics. The first time I took it down to 6.0 because I thought it was a zinc deficiency. Then I discovered calcium won't be taken up in that range and I started to see more dead spots on the leaves. After that I watered with Ph 7.0 adjusted tap water. That was two days ago. No obvious improvement yet. I'm seeing it on the other, smaller plant that didn't have it before I corrected the water but this might just be from the Ph fluctuation. I'm nine weeks in and I'd like to flip to flower but I'm compelled to wait 'til I can see some improvement. My question is: does RO water permanently trash the supersoil ecosystem or can it be restored?
    Last edited by Crowdad; 10-15-2020, 02:51 PM.
    1st grow-FF Happy Frog B S Organics Super soil. 4 X 5 gal fabric pots supplemented with; Fert-Alive,Cal-Mag, GH Floralicious Bloom, Growganica Incredible Bulk bloom booster, Compost tea, worm castings, Stepwell bloom top dress. Pure Crop 1 foliar spray, Vipar Spectra R900, Fusion Hut 3X4X6 Fusion Breath 4" fan/filter. Hawaii X Maui Waui feminized photoperiod.

    #2
    RO water has almost everything stripped out of it, not the best but should not be harmful.
    What is the PH of the soil and what buffers are in it?

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      #3
      Just add water setup?? Not sure if you mean like a living soil, if so all you need to do is either filter your tap water with a charcoal filter or put water in a bucket open for a day or two these both will remove any chlorine from the water. As long as the water from there is between 5.5 - 7.5 the soil will adjust the ph by itself as long as the soil is good that is. I grow in living soil and I water with filtered water with a ph of 7.3 last I checked it 3 months ago with no problems

      Edit == I just read the bottom of your post and with that soil you shouldn't have to worry about ph as long as you get rid of any chlorine.
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      • MeEasy
        MeEasy commented
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        I put an adapter on the faucet in my tub that allows me to use a standard water hose and inline charcoal filter so I think I'm good?? I've never heard anything about chloramine does a filter get it out?

      • Rwise
        Rwise commented
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        The filter will not harm anything, nor will it remove chemicals, it will make the water taste better.
        Everything I read said you use another chemical to kill it.
        Edit RO should remove it. /Edit

      • MeEasy
        MeEasy commented
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        Thanks Rwise I'll have to call the town to make sure, so far things look alright, but this is my 1st round with this soil

      #4
      MeEasy, is right above if you got good soil ,as long as you just a little below or a little above 6.0-7.0ph, you don't need to adjust, the soil will take care of it.
      I've used KindSoil a good bit , it's a living soil ,but you sure got to adjust to between 6-7, or you have problems, I promise you.
      The soil in our huntin woods you ain't got to adjust nothing, an for years up till I started growing autos, a few years back, we used water wherever we could get it, out of ditches, the MsRiver to water our outdoor plants, and the only few problems we ever had was from bugs or deer every now an again, ain't no telling what that water ph, was. I know we never spotted leaves.
      Dont know what it is in KindSoil, but you sure got to keep it adjusted .
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        #5
        Thanks for the reassurances. I just clued into the chlorine removal so the last time I watered there may have been some chlorine. I'm watering today with compost tea made with de-chlorinated, ph adjusted tap water. I was hoping I could use water that was close to 7.0 and the soil would adjust. I was a bit suspicious of the Blue Sky Organics super soil because when I looked into the company's website they suggest using their supplements along with the "super soil" for the best performance. This doesn't jive with what I've been told about super soil. None of the super soils recommended by GWE are available to me up here but there are a few choices. I'll have to wait another few days since today is the first time I've watered with the proper stuff. If I killed any bennies hopefully the tea will restore them.
        1st grow-FF Happy Frog B S Organics Super soil. 4 X 5 gal fabric pots supplemented with; Fert-Alive,Cal-Mag, GH Floralicious Bloom, Growganica Incredible Bulk bloom booster, Compost tea, worm castings, Stepwell bloom top dress. Pure Crop 1 foliar spray, Vipar Spectra R900, Fusion Hut 3X4X6 Fusion Breath 4" fan/filter. Hawaii X Maui Waui feminized photoperiod.

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        • D.A.A.S.69
          D.A.A.S.69 commented
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          Those are pretty plants, yeah just set out tapwater an teas from here on an you should be fine.
          But I'd try to keep it between 6-7 .

        #6
        Thanks again for all your help folks! I looked into it and our local water is treated with chloramine. It's a little tougher to get rid of but I think I found two solutions. Vitamin C (Ascorbic acid) is supposed to work and humid acid is also touted as a cure. The vitamin C is the cheaper solution, and you can buy it pure. Anybody tried this? How much per gallon should I use? There are other water conditioners to be found at pet shops that are used by people who keep aquariums but there's a lot of unknown stuff in there to help fish and I don't know how the plants would take to it. I'm still waiting for my plants to look better. They're still growing and if I squeeze my butt cheeks really hard I can maybe see a bit of improvement but nothing substantial yet. Each plant seems to have it's own unique disorder and one of them isn't really that bad. True confession: I checked the Ph of my compost tea after I poured it on the plants a couple days ago; 7.6 Dooh!
        1st grow-FF Happy Frog B S Organics Super soil. 4 X 5 gal fabric pots supplemented with; Fert-Alive,Cal-Mag, GH Floralicious Bloom, Growganica Incredible Bulk bloom booster, Compost tea, worm castings, Stepwell bloom top dress. Pure Crop 1 foliar spray, Vipar Spectra R900, Fusion Hut 3X4X6 Fusion Breath 4" fan/filter. Hawaii X Maui Waui feminized photoperiod.

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        • Rwise
          Rwise commented
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          That compost tea contains humic acid,

        #7
        I did the 24 hr off gas method, I bought a Boogie Blue charcoal filter, I forgot to dechlorinate, I'd remember to dechlorinate, and then I found this stuff after someone on another thread suggested it...Been using it for months with no issues, at all. I haven't thought twice about chlorine, chloramines, and no filters, filling buckets and waiting, etc. Click image for larger version

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        Photo Tent: Gorilla 4x4x6 HLG Scorpion R, Jetfan 6” w/Carbon Filter, Mother Earth Coco 50/50 perlite, Autopot system, Train Wreck x 4 (ILGM) 8-14-2022 Harvest 2/4 11-25-22
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        • Crowdad
          Crowdad commented
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          I can't find that stuff up here for some reason.

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