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    HELP! Twisted growth, spotting

    Hey everyone. Lately, my plant has been stressed. Twisted new leaf growth, and an odd copper/brown on the lower leaves. Some orange spots on the edges of the fan leaves as well. Growth has been stunted greatly, but she seems to be healthy still. I'm using Miracle Gro soil eith a 300W LED Setup. Light is 18 inches away. I transplanted a week ago so I figured it was shock, but I'm unsure. The ph was relatively low, with my test kit showing yellow (5.5 - 6) everytime I watered. I since then uped it to green/yellow (6.0 - 6.5). I also added Cal-Mag-Iron nutes yesterday as I assumed the to be a calcium or mag deficiency. Can anyone give me some insight on this? She's about a month or so old.
    Ask questions, take notes, and check your pH regularly. 😌

    2 x 2 x 4 Tent
    300W full-spectrum light

    MiracleGro soil (0.06 - 0.02 - 0.02)
    Humboldts Secret Calmag & Iron (2-0-0)
    FlowerFuel (0-34-32)

    #2
    Ask questions, take notes, and check your pH regularly. 😌

    2 x 2 x 4 Tent
    300W full-spectrum light

    MiracleGro soil (0.06 - 0.02 - 0.02)
    Humboldts Secret Calmag & Iron (2-0-0)
    FlowerFuel (0-34-32)

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      #3
      Ask questions, take notes, and check your pH regularly. 😌

      2 x 2 x 4 Tent
      300W full-spectrum light

      MiracleGro soil (0.06 - 0.02 - 0.02)
      Humboldts Secret Calmag & Iron (2-0-0)
      FlowerFuel (0-34-32)

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        #4
        Ask questions, take notes, and check your pH regularly. 😌

        2 x 2 x 4 Tent
        300W full-spectrum light

        MiracleGro soil (0.06 - 0.02 - 0.02)
        Humboldts Secret Calmag & Iron (2-0-0)
        FlowerFuel (0-34-32)

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          #5
          Ask questions, take notes, and check your pH regularly. 😌

          2 x 2 x 4 Tent
          300W full-spectrum light

          MiracleGro soil (0.06 - 0.02 - 0.02)
          Humboldts Secret Calmag & Iron (2-0-0)
          FlowerFuel (0-34-32)

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            #6
            The best thing is to buy a digital PH meter - Then you are 100% sure what your PH is.
            How much drainage holes do you have in the pot?
            my opinion is it doesn’t look like an mag Deficiency. But you could have some roots problems with the twisted grow - and sometimes it comes from bad watering practices- like overwatering. This is why I ask about your drainage.
            You have a bit of clawing also - which could indicate too intense light or to much Nitrogen.
            Some of the leaves, too me - looks like a nute burn. Slightly nute burn.
            if you add cal mag, follow the plant the next couple of days, if it’s progressing, it’s not a cal mag deficiency.
            What kind of nutrients and how much are you giving her ?
            also is this an auto or a photo period strain ?
            Just because people are over 50 doesn’t mean they know everything.
            You can teach a old dog new tricks - But it will still think the old ways are the β€œbest” lol

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              #7
              This is a photo I'm sure (Got it out of my bag, not a seed bank). There's about 20-30 drainage holes but honestly I've never seen ANY runoff water. It's a 5-10 gallon pot. I feed her 12-10-5 (garden feed, not water soluble the feed is mixed in the soil) and Humboldts Secret CalMag & Iron (Water administration) I feed her only every other watering. All these problems actually popped up at the same time so it's really overwhelming. I have the urge to apply everything I can to her but I know that won't help.
              Ask questions, take notes, and check your pH regularly. 😌

              2 x 2 x 4 Tent
              300W full-spectrum light

              MiracleGro soil (0.06 - 0.02 - 0.02)
              Humboldts Secret Calmag & Iron (2-0-0)
              FlowerFuel (0-34-32)

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              • CaptainWiese91
                CaptainWiese91 commented
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                gbauto glad for you’re second opinion. It doesn’t look like it’s in need of N. But I never heard of this nutrients before. Do they explode randomly?

              • gbauto
                gbauto commented
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                I use 'nute bomb' as a euphemism for unexpected releases. Having pockets of dry nutes becoming available when you don't want them too is a challenge. That's why I always mix my feed with any water for the plant.

              • CaptainWiese91
                CaptainWiese91 commented
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                Roger that πŸ‘πŸ»

              #8
              Yes the feed is mixed in. Not powder, more like tiny pebbles. It's the 12-10-5 feed that is mixed into the soil. I only mixed 1 tablespoon of it throughout the 10 gallon pot so I wouldn't think it to be a problem. Now I did transplant maybe a week or so ago. The roots were barely exposed while transplanting so it seemed like a sooth transition. The twisted leaves came about 4 days after transplant, discoloration right after it.
              No bugs as far as I can see.
              Ask questions, take notes, and check your pH regularly. 😌

              2 x 2 x 4 Tent
              300W full-spectrum light

              MiracleGro soil (0.06 - 0.02 - 0.02)
              Humboldts Secret Calmag & Iron (2-0-0)
              FlowerFuel (0-34-32)

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                #9
                If the twisted leaves don’t get better, like in the next week. It’s not transplant shock. I still suspect a root problem or a PH issue after your transplant- and a PH issue is a good starter of all sort of problems - like nutrients can’t get absorbed
                Just because people are over 50 doesn’t mean they know everything.
                You can teach a old dog new tricks - But it will still think the old ways are the β€œbest” lol

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                  #10
                  I just spent some time reading up on root problems. It does seem to display a lot of the same symptoms. I'll water with balanced pH and no nutes for the next week or so. If it does turn to be a root problem, is there any solution ?
                  Ask questions, take notes, and check your pH regularly. 😌

                  2 x 2 x 4 Tent
                  300W full-spectrum light

                  MiracleGro soil (0.06 - 0.02 - 0.02)
                  Humboldts Secret Calmag & Iron (2-0-0)
                  FlowerFuel (0-34-32)

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                  • CaptainWiese91
                    CaptainWiese91 commented
                    Editing a comment
                    Personally I use voodoo juice. It should be able to find a bottle on amazon or something

                  #11
                  Thanks a lot Cap. You helped me out a lot here. Appreciate ya. Your grow looks great! Happy growing
                  Ask questions, take notes, and check your pH regularly. 😌

                  2 x 2 x 4 Tent
                  300W full-spectrum light

                  MiracleGro soil (0.06 - 0.02 - 0.02)
                  Humboldts Secret Calmag & Iron (2-0-0)
                  FlowerFuel (0-34-32)

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                  • CaptainWiese91
                    CaptainWiese91 commented
                    Editing a comment
                    NΓ£o problema β˜ΊοΈπŸ‘πŸ»
                    If it’s progressing come back with new pictures. And remember the voodoo juice πŸ‘πŸ»

                  #12
                  Also, could you recommend a brand of VooDoo? I'm going to order some today, but there seems to be a lot of different manufacturers and I don't want to pick a low quality producer
                  Ask questions, take notes, and check your pH regularly. 😌

                  2 x 2 x 4 Tent
                  300W full-spectrum light

                  MiracleGro soil (0.06 - 0.02 - 0.02)
                  Humboldts Secret Calmag & Iron (2-0-0)
                  FlowerFuel (0-34-32)

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                  • CaptainWiese91
                    CaptainWiese91 commented
                    Editing a comment
                    Advanced nutritions πŸ‘πŸ»

                  #13
                  Great news - she back to growing! And may I say these new blades look FAR healthier than the previous.

                  I took your advice and considered root problems to be a big component of my problem. Come to find out, my root zone about an inch down was soaked. Even after 4 days of no water! I decided to carefully remove all soil around the wall of root zone (leaving an inch of soil covering all roots) and began drying the core with my ventilation system on high.
                  I didn't want to drown the plant more trying to administer cal-mag, so I foliar sprayed for 3 days (lightly before lights out) and waited.
                  The Cal-mag took effect immediately, and as the root zone dried, she started to perk up and grow quicker every day!
                  She did go from 7 bladed leaves to 11 bladed right after so that's odd to me but what matters is that she seems to be on a steady recover.
                  Thanks again guys!
                  Ask questions, take notes, and check your pH regularly. 😌

                  2 x 2 x 4 Tent
                  300W full-spectrum light

                  MiracleGro soil (0.06 - 0.02 - 0.02)
                  Humboldts Secret Calmag & Iron (2-0-0)
                  FlowerFuel (0-34-32)

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                    #14
                    New growth looks vibrant, not twisted or contorted. No discoloration aside from what was already damaged
                    Ask questions, take notes, and check your pH regularly. 😌

                    2 x 2 x 4 Tent
                    300W full-spectrum light

                    MiracleGro soil (0.06 - 0.02 - 0.02)
                    Humboldts Secret Calmag & Iron (2-0-0)
                    FlowerFuel (0-34-32)

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                      #15
                      So cool!! Im happy you solved the problem πŸ˜ŽπŸ‘πŸ»
                      Just because people are over 50 doesn’t mean they know everything.
                      You can teach a old dog new tricks - But it will still think the old ways are the β€œbest” lol

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