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    Growing a crop by reading the plants and not a schedule! - Rodelization

    Plants obtained by Rodelization- https://www.growweedeasy.com/how-to-...arijuana-seeds, contain genes from 1 female plant.

    In my past experience, those seeds behave differently than the mother and don't always follow "the timeline".

    I dropped a rodelization (accidental) seed, a week ago from a plant grown with a GHS "Jack Herer" auto and stuck it on my window sill.

    I have contemplated doing a grow completely- by what the plant is signaling/maturity etc and not a schedule.

    Since this is an "extra" between grows and I am using different lights (CoB/Chilled Logic-combo) this year- I thought this grow should be different with many new variables.

    That said: I have grown Jack Herer a few times - so this isn't completely a blind grow using bagseed.

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    The seed broke ground this morning- a seed needs the next 12 hours of light, once above soil- lucky timing and it will stay on the window for today.
    It took 6 days from planting- and was covered by a platic cup-which gets removed immediately once above ground.

    "Schedules? We don't need no stinkin' schedules!"
    Last edited by Weed Pharma; 01-13-2019, 02:04 PM. Reason: fixed pic
    It's all bullshit - until you smoke it!

    KISS @ Dry/Cure:
    https://forum.growweedeasy.com/forum...-kiss-dry-cure


    Staged Harvest:
    https://forum.growweedeasy.com/forum...e-in-the-wings



    Grow Journals:

    #3, Window Sill Grow - auto:
    http://forum.growweedeasy.com/forum/...nic-soil-24-7g

    #4, KISS grow- Girl Scout Cookies- auto:
    https://forum.growweedeasy.com/forum...ies-autoflower

    #2
    She is already phototropic- facing and tracking the sun!
    about 2mls of water drops-around the stem- now time to let her dry out.
    Last edited by Weed Pharma; 01-13-2019, 02:38 PM. Reason: added watering info-
    It's all bullshit - until you smoke it!

    KISS @ Dry/Cure:
    https://forum.growweedeasy.com/forum...-kiss-dry-cure


    Staged Harvest:
    https://forum.growweedeasy.com/forum...e-in-the-wings



    Grow Journals:

    #3, Window Sill Grow - auto:
    http://forum.growweedeasy.com/forum/...nic-soil-24-7g

    #4, KISS grow- Girl Scout Cookies- auto:
    https://forum.growweedeasy.com/forum...ies-autoflower

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      #3
      Vader og is a California breeder, he just got into the 2019 breeders hall of fame of high times. Anyway he does a lot of videos on YouTube and explains all about what he does. He has explained that the best way to reverse sex in a female plant is what you did, usually done by letting a strain go 14+ weeks flowering. It’s the best way to create feminized seeds because it’s the less “stressful” way to reverse sex. When using chemicals of light stress the plants activate their hermie genes and don’t go back, that’s why colloidal silver feminized turn hermie way more often. So by doing a “low stress sex reversal” you have the highest probabilities to get feminized seeds that won’t hermie under regular conditions. Great experiment my friend. Happy growing
      current grows
      https://forum.growweedeasy.com/forum...-coco-question
      https://forum.growweedeasy.com/forum...picture-update

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        #4
        Weed Pharma

        subbed for this. I have about a dozen seeds from my first plants, that stressed out and gave some seeds. I been keeping them safe - just was never sure if would bother trying them. this may give me a reason to.

        thanks

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        Currently growing:
        Northern Lights (Canuk Seeds)
        Light of JAH (Amsterdam Marijuana Seeds)
        Royal Gorilla Automatic (Royal Queen Seeds)


        In my defence
        I was left alone and unsupervised

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        • LurkingInTheGrass
          LurkingInTheGrass commented
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          LOL

          Not genetics, all user error 😁

          Glad I kept them safe, thanks for the info

        • oldjarhead100
          oldjarhead100 commented
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          hey all the plants with air injectors seeded I have all the parts lol

        • Colombo
          Colombo commented
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          I have saved all seeds, bag, hermit some, 25yrs old plus! I just had a harvest that was stressed late in flower from sleep/light intrusion and produced seeds. the bud was nice smoking and as usual will save the seeds.

        #5


        Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_0019.JPG Views:	1 Size:	1.28 MB ID:	283956 Decided to place her under MarsHydro reflector48 (growth switch only) @ 29" from soil in 24/0 in small tent. (not worth starting larger tent until more plants. Also, seedlings don't need much light)


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        With each watering- I will be adding the above minerals/supplements in 500ml water in the following amounts:
        Pro-Tekt (Si) 1.5mls, Cal/Mag 3mls, Trinity (microbial stimulant) 3mls and Rapidstart (root enhancer) 1ml.


        "Schedules? We don't need no stinkin' schedules!"
        Last edited by Weed Pharma; 01-14-2019, 12:55 PM. Reason: added rapidstart amount.
        It's all bullshit - until you smoke it!

        KISS @ Dry/Cure:
        https://forum.growweedeasy.com/forum...-kiss-dry-cure


        Staged Harvest:
        https://forum.growweedeasy.com/forum...e-in-the-wings



        Grow Journals:

        #3, Window Sill Grow - auto:
        http://forum.growweedeasy.com/forum/...nic-soil-24-7g

        #4, KISS grow- Girl Scout Cookies- auto:
        https://forum.growweedeasy.com/forum...ies-autoflower

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          #6
          This thread has opened my eyes! Never heard of rodelization before. I have a strain which, to my knowledge, I can't get seeds of. Do you think it is possible to harvest all but one limb and try to get the one remaining limb to produce seeds?

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          • Weed Pharma
            Weed Pharma commented
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            Possible/plausible- yes
            It would certainly be worth trying!

          #7

          Under the LED's for 24 hrs:
          the plant is straight
          the serrated leaves are perfectly horizontal indicating proper light range.

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          I moved the LED 2" closer (@27") and will stop there- allowing the plant to grow into the light for now.


          It's all bullshit - until you smoke it!

          KISS @ Dry/Cure:
          https://forum.growweedeasy.com/forum...-kiss-dry-cure


          Staged Harvest:
          https://forum.growweedeasy.com/forum...e-in-the-wings



          Grow Journals:

          #3, Window Sill Grow - auto:
          http://forum.growweedeasy.com/forum/...nic-soil-24-7g

          #4, KISS grow- Girl Scout Cookies- auto:
          https://forum.growweedeasy.com/forum...ies-autoflower

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          • Mr.furley
            Mr.furley commented
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            Nice and level WP, great shot.

          • oldjarhead100
            oldjarhead100 commented
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            Weed Pharma I never knew that about the serrated leafs great thing to know thanks

          • Weed Pharma
            Weed Pharma commented
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            oldjarhead100, The plant has to be directly below the fixture- especially LED's as they shoot straight down (mostly).
            A plant can not move out of the way, so leaves will try and shade themselves if too intense.

          #8
          Moving to 2x4x6 tent with other sprouts.
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ID:	285272 I went with the Chilled logic puckv2 @36" on 50% power- no exhaust or intake fan- just a small fan on the seedling to strengthen the stem and trying to keep humidity/temps up for a few more days.
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ID:	285273 I will be increasing the light intesity until 100% then move plants to Optic1xl cob for the rest of veg. The chilled is more for flowering, but was dimmable.

          "Schedules? We don't need no stinkin' schedules!"
          It's all bullshit - until you smoke it!

          KISS @ Dry/Cure:
          https://forum.growweedeasy.com/forum...-kiss-dry-cure


          Staged Harvest:
          https://forum.growweedeasy.com/forum...e-in-the-wings



          Grow Journals:

          #3, Window Sill Grow - auto:
          http://forum.growweedeasy.com/forum/...nic-soil-24-7g

          #4, KISS grow- Girl Scout Cookies- auto:
          https://forum.growweedeasy.com/forum...ies-autoflower

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            #9
            Nice. I have started not even watching dates etc. Never seemed to line up for me. Always watched the plants.

            And yeah if you let a plant go for a long long flower they almost always seem to produce seeds.

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              #10

              Broke my first rule " Don't tend the garden medicated" .

              Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_0038.JPG Views:	1 Size:	303.7 KB ID:	285712 Growing well under new lights-Optic1XL COB @ 24hrs until 5th node.

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              Leaves are just touching the edge, container dry and should have waited a day or two for transplant- but (SEE the first rule) I went ahead anyways.

              Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_0039.JPG Views:	1 Size:	512.7 KB ID:	285714 I'm using stock Roots Organics original (not amended) so will consider the plants biology for nutrients.
              Roots could carry it for for a 4-6 weeks, but we know there are growth spurts coming- @ transplant, @ topping @ flowering stretch. I added GreatWhite, Liquid Karma and a small dose of guano and grow.

              Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_0040.JPG Views:	1 Size:	692.8 KB ID:	285715 It was traumatic with the dirt falling apart (too dry) however the roots were coming through and they looked good.
              Water/Feed the drip line only and give a little plain water in the germbag.

              "Schedules? We don't need no stinkin' schedules!"
              Last edited by Weed Pharma; 01-22-2019, 01:05 AM. Reason: "Schedules? We don't need no stinkin' schedules!"
              It's all bullshit - until you smoke it!

              KISS @ Dry/Cure:
              https://forum.growweedeasy.com/forum...-kiss-dry-cure


              Staged Harvest:
              https://forum.growweedeasy.com/forum...e-in-the-wings



              Grow Journals:

              #3, Window Sill Grow - auto:
              http://forum.growweedeasy.com/forum/...nic-soil-24-7g

              #4, KISS grow- Girl Scout Cookies- auto:
              https://forum.growweedeasy.com/forum...ies-autoflower

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                #11
                Looking good weed Pharma
                new grow room built summer of 2017 ,argo max tent for veging ,big kahuna reflector, 1000hps with added leds for the full spectrum . 15th indoor grow ,5 years outside gorilla grows(stealth is the key),veg under t5s growing autos under 300w leds
                current grow https://forum.growweedeasy.com/forum...-new-grow-room

                https://forum.growweedeasy.com/forum...-auto-vs-photo


                https://forum.growweedeasy.com/forum...-week-4-update

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                  #12
                  There is a lot going on in this pic- (entire plant drooping)

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                  Is it underwatering/overwatering?- only watered to the drip line.
                  Environment change?- added exhaust, increased circulation and more light
                  Transplant shock? - possible and will recover in a few days when new roots grow
                  VPD?- the temps/rh dropped from 78f and 60%rh to 72f and 30%rh

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                  Regardless, it all revolves around the roots being unable to keep up with the foliage.
                  trim single leaves off to decrease foliage (like when you clone)
                  moved away from light a bit
                  raked/pushed the soil to the containers edge allowing more oxygen to roots
                  small amount of water in germbag
                  Last edited by Weed Pharma; 01-26-2019, 12:12 PM. Reason: pics uploaded
                  It's all bullshit - until you smoke it!

                  KISS @ Dry/Cure:
                  https://forum.growweedeasy.com/forum...-kiss-dry-cure


                  Staged Harvest:
                  https://forum.growweedeasy.com/forum...e-in-the-wings



                  Grow Journals:

                  #3, Window Sill Grow - auto:
                  http://forum.growweedeasy.com/forum/...nic-soil-24-7g

                  #4, KISS grow- Girl Scout Cookies- auto:
                  https://forum.growweedeasy.com/forum...ies-autoflower

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                    #13
                    Also, I reduced the light schedule to 20/4 for a few days.

                    And 15 hours later she has recouped and looking good.

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                    Notice the position of the leaves, to get maximum photons on the leaves surface area.
                    Last edited by Weed Pharma; 01-26-2019, 12:29 PM. Reason: pic uplaoded
                    It's all bullshit - until you smoke it!

                    KISS @ Dry/Cure:
                    https://forum.growweedeasy.com/forum...-kiss-dry-cure


                    Staged Harvest:
                    https://forum.growweedeasy.com/forum...e-in-the-wings



                    Grow Journals:

                    #3, Window Sill Grow - auto:
                    http://forum.growweedeasy.com/forum/...nic-soil-24-7g

                    #4, KISS grow- Girl Scout Cookies- auto:
                    https://forum.growweedeasy.com/forum...ies-autoflower

                    Comment


                      #14
                      I found a couple of bugs (gnats likely) so treated with spinosad/DE and topped with gnatnix.

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                      This plant was in the middle of drying out- the medium and normally would not need to treat-
                      However, I have started another grow in the same tent and do not want other plants involved.

                      This is the first pests in 2 years-
                      I add a few deterents when I amend soil- but no ammendments for this grow and I planted directly into soil-
                      I usually veg in coco/perlite and flower in soil.

                      She is still growing well # 3rd node. I placed a stick to be able to quickly determine, how much she is growing.

                      Continue to dry her out and return the light schedule to 24/0
                      Last edited by Weed Pharma; 01-26-2019, 12:40 PM. Reason: spelling
                      It's all bullshit - until you smoke it!

                      KISS @ Dry/Cure:
                      https://forum.growweedeasy.com/forum...-kiss-dry-cure


                      Staged Harvest:
                      https://forum.growweedeasy.com/forum...e-in-the-wings



                      Grow Journals:

                      #3, Window Sill Grow - auto:
                      http://forum.growweedeasy.com/forum/...nic-soil-24-7g

                      #4, KISS grow- Girl Scout Cookies- auto:
                      https://forum.growweedeasy.com/forum...ies-autoflower

                      Comment


                      #15
                      Maybe I'm a little impatient, but she is not recovering as I would expect-
                      There is new growth (slow) which is encouraging and no pests visible.
                      She was last watered 7 days ago- just around the drip line.
                      Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_0053.JPG Views:	1 Size:	460.0 KB ID:	287324 The stick gives me a quick reference on new growth- however slight.
                      Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_0054.JPG Views:	1 Size:	461.5 KB ID:	287323 In addition to watering to the drip line, I added 1ml SM90 for roots and sprinkled BTi to rid any pest larvae.
                      When I watered, it ran out directly - as you would see with a completely dried out plant, so I waited a bit before adding suplements/minerals.

                      I used an awl to punch many holes in the fabric bag @ 2" & 4" from bottom. I also added about 25 holes directly on the bottom and returned to tent on a rack.
                      Last edited by Weed Pharma; 01-28-2019, 12:44 PM. Reason: added rip line
                      It's all bullshit - until you smoke it!

                      KISS @ Dry/Cure:
                      https://forum.growweedeasy.com/forum...-kiss-dry-cure


                      Staged Harvest:
                      https://forum.growweedeasy.com/forum...e-in-the-wings



                      Grow Journals:

                      #3, Window Sill Grow - auto:
                      http://forum.growweedeasy.com/forum/...nic-soil-24-7g

                      #4, KISS grow- Girl Scout Cookies- auto:
                      https://forum.growweedeasy.com/forum...ies-autoflower

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                      • LurkingInTheGrass
                        LurkingInTheGrass commented
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                        anybody else reminded of Gilligan's Island?
                        the episode where the Professor thought the island was sinking (because Gilligan was moving his stick)

                      • Colombo
                        Colombo commented
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                        No disrespect, just finished a burn and read this, cannot stop laughing LOL, have to take a deep breath!!! whow

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